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RyaneM
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Posted: Aug 28 2009 at 8:57am | IP Logged Quote RyaneM

Hi ladies,

Jim and I attend the TLM in a small convent chapel that is on the campus of a larger NO parish. Our older son was baptised in the NO parish but we would like to have Joseph baptised by our dear family friend and spiritual director who is an FSSP priest. The baptism would have to take place in the NO parish though since the small convent chapel is not an offical "parish" of the diocese.

I have never actually been to a Traditional (Latin) baptism. What should I expect? How is it different from a NO Baptism (except for the obvious)? Are there responses that we will have to make in Latin or will those portions be in English? I am sure Fr. C will fill us in, but we don't see him often as he is based in Scranton and we are in NY. I think I will need to arrange for an alter boy to be present to assist Father, right? Anything else?

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Posted: Aug 28 2009 at 9:29am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Ask your priest. Some priests will say it in Latin, others might use the English translation (though, I'm guessing the FSSP priest will say it in Latin).

The rite is very different. We printed programs with the Latin and English for our third (the first two were baptised in the newer rite) so people could follow along. It is quite long, and there is more ritual. It requires the use of blessed salt; so, I would ask your priest if you need to bring salt (especially since it will be in a different church).

You can find the old rite online to familiarize yourself with it. It is beautiful! I actually like both the older and new rites for different reasons. The priest does a few different exorcisms and actually uses "spittle" during one part to imitate the gospel where Christ opens the eyes and ears.

One difference is that the godparents really do most of teh talking instead of the parents. Also, you start in the back, knocking to come in, and the priest allows the person to come in.

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Posted: Aug 28 2009 at 9:45am | IP Logged Quote Lisbet

We had Greta baptized in the old rite. It was very beautiful. The godparents are way more involved. There is much symbolism and even exorcism.   We also made up a booklet with the Latin and English translation, and we also wrote a little bit about the old rite for those that were unfamiliar. It was a very beautiful day.

Here is a link from Fish Eaters

And I have a video montage on my blog of her Baptism. (Godmother is holding her, many of my boys are serving, we just stood back and watched!)
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Posted: Aug 28 2009 at 12:18pm | IP Logged Quote Nina

We had all of our 7 children babtized in the old rite. As Linday wrote, the godparents say most of the responses, but the priest does help a lot. He will most likely give all a booklet. The old rite is very beautiful, I'm sure that your family will be blessed with a wonderful memory.
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Posted: Aug 29 2009 at 11:04am | IP Logged Quote Milehimama

This link might help

NO and Traditional Rites of Baptism

Our Alli is being baptized in the old rite tomorrow. I like it because it has more explicit exorcisms.

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Posted: Aug 31 2009 at 6:49am | IP Logged Quote RyaneM

Thanks!!

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Posted: Sept 01 2009 at 4:32pm | IP Logged Quote margot helene

Ryane,
Even if you don't print programs (we've had 5 baptized in traditional rite and never had one), people can follow along. You might ask Father to tell the people what he's about to do. The priests we've had do it have always explained as we went along. It's in the missal, I think, so you might have one or two available for the godparents. (this is not to say that you shouldn't have it printed up, but if you're stressed, it's not essential.)

It is really cool - you start "outside" the church (or as far at the back as you can if you can't be outside) with the exorcism and then progress further and further in the Church as the rite continues.

Tell Father C I said hi!!!
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Posted: Sept 01 2009 at 5:02pm | IP Logged Quote Erin

Our nephew was baptised in May in the Latin rite, dh and I were godparents. It was awesome!!

Not hard to follow at all, although my sister printed booklets. The priest 'prompted' where necessary.

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