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I thought I had found the perfect thing for us when we started using Seton's religion workbook/worktext. I really need something organized, something I can pick up each day and read to the kids, to keep us focused (i.e. if there is only enough reading to do in one day, we do it in one day and the rest of the week forget about religion more often than not  Have I just lost my membership here?   ).
But I keep coming across things like this:
Religion 4 for Young Catholics wrote:
| The Jesus cried out, "I thirst" (John 19:28). Because the soldiers thought He was thirsty, one of them offered Him a sponge dipped in vinegar. However He was not thirsting for water. He was thirsting for each one of us to come to Him ...{etc} |
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Ummm, who said he wasn't thirsting for water, too? I've read in other places that all the blood loss would have made him feel extremely thirsty. But anyway, it's not just this one thing, I find so many places that Seton speaks with authority on things that are just opinion or guesses, and I wind up having to say to my girls, "Well, no body knows really, so you have to take what they say with a grain of salt." Now, I can't stand to do that in a religion text, because my children (esp. my 10 year old) will now start second guessing EVERYTHING they say, not just the little things.
So I guess my questions are: has anyone else encountered this with Seton or am I just so dumb regarding religious things that I just *think* they're wrong when they're right? and can anyone recommend a good replacement? The girls have to go back into CCD here to be confirmed (many years away, but still...) and I don't want them to be totally lost. I think maybe I just need a great scope and sequence for all things religious. 
I was raised as a Sunday/Cafeteria Catholic, and I'm really struggling to make this our life and culture. 
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Amy, I don't have a good answer. I understand where you're coming from. I think it would say He was thirsty, but it was also a fulfillment of the prophecy...something like that. (Brain fog so I'm not being specific).
I think they are using Biblical scholarship to guide them, but I agree, as a man undergoing what He was going through, He had to be thirsty! So you could say, Jesus was thirsty, but the books are pointing out the symbolism behind His actions.
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Amy,
Some of it is temperment. And, no, you are not the only person who went nuts with Seton over something like that. One of mine would go nuts with that. Another, honestly, would probably not even notice. We didn't do Seton in elementary, but it drove her nutty in high school and quite honestly it became imperative that we switch to elsewhere - a lot had to do with the tendency to do all the reflecting for the kids and tell them what to think instead of pointing out where some of the information was coming from or the sources.
Do you like Faith and Life? I happen to have the really old books with the beautiful art prints in them and I know people who have the newer books are a bit batty with the extensive busywork. Even with the old ones, we almost never do the workbook, but once you get past first grade, the books really do have a lovely way of phrasing things with an emphasis on love.
I know Kolbe has plans for Faith and Life, but really it is nothing more than weaving St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism for memory work with the Faith and Life and wherever their plans have the workbook, we simply do our craft or seasonal celebration or whatever else we had planned.
I make flash cards with the Baltimore Catechism and after we have discussed something, the card goes in our pile for review. We review these periodically.
That would be another option - read the Bible every morning, discuss things that come to mind and then later in the day tackle memory work. (If you have a good study Bible like Navarre, there will be more than enough to discuss).
A lot depends on the age of your children and whether or not they are all close in age. I could not do a lot of group things, so I really liked having the Faith and Life for children to read. We can do Catechism memory work together if I chose cards from the appropriate level for each child - or my more visual children study them by themselves too. I read from the Bible - but really my olders benefit in doing that at their own level and me working with youngers at their level.
If you are looking for workbooks, then I don't know that I am much help.
Janet
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