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Posted: Sept 07 2007 at 3:47pm | IP Logged Quote doris

When our younger dd was baptized, our parish priest mentioned in the sermon that the name we gave her that day would be the name she would be called in heaven. Obvious, really, but it hadn't occurred to me like that.

I've told the children about this, and also (separately) about religious taking new names (we had a brother staying with us so it came up). Bright sparks that they are, they're now asking whether religious will have their baptismal, or their religious, name in heaven.

I've no idea! Anyone?

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Posted: Sept 07 2007 at 5:31pm | IP Logged Quote Rachel May

I have no idea, but I'm going to ask my brother--a religiouus. I'm mostly hoping that God doesn't look at me and say, "Mich..Marc..John..Cather..Anth..who ever you are...."

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Posted: Sept 07 2007 at 9:27pm | IP Logged Quote isjalu0826

Funny thing is, the first thing that came to mind when I read your post and question was that, in Heaven, it won't matter. My guess is you won't be called by NAME... but God would be calling you, speaking to you, to your SOUL, your innermost self, and at that point, the name itself (baptismal, religious name, nickname, married name, maiden name, etc..) would be unnecessary, superflous...kind of like our earthly bodies, you know?

We are each who we are.. regardless of what name we are called on earth, and God knows us... "By Name I Have Called You..."... God knew us in our mothers' wombs, before we even had names...right?

Even those poor innocent unborn children who never get a chance to live, who are never named... God knows them...

You know what I mean? God knew each of your children and my son and me and you, before we were even born... and I don't think he was thinking of us as Bobby, Sally, MaryJane and Rebecca...

Or people who had one name at birth and then were adopted and their name was changed. Or people who have one name in their native country (say, Juan) and they live in the US now, so they're called John. I don't think it's a question of whether God calls him Juan or John... he is WHO he is, regardless... and in heaven...well, I just think it won't be about nomenclature, like that... Whether that woman in heaven is Sister Clare or Aunt Kitty or Katherine, she is WHO she is... God knows her by all of those names, and yet she is maybe none of those names in heaven, because heaven is beyond names...?

I'm thinking maybe kind of esoteric here :-) but I guess what I'm trying to say is I think God speaks to us in our heart and in that heart, it won't be a matter of names. He knows me/you in our gut, our soul, he created us and knew us before we were even named...

I wonder if that makes ANY SENSE AT ALL?!?!?! Ha ha!!!

I am hardly an expert at doctrine or dogma. I wonder what others will have to say!!! But these are my late-night thoughts on the topic! Hope I didn't scandalize anyone :-)
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Posted: Sept 07 2007 at 9:34pm | IP Logged Quote isjalu0826

P.S. Then again, maybe God was thinking of us by name...and that's how we were each given a name by our parents, by divine inspiration. God knew us in our mother's womb, and knew who we were, what our name was, and that's how our parents came upon our names?

It's a thought.

But if that were the case, then I think that for religious, it would be the birth name, because that is the name they received at birth, at baptism. (Though it's funny---I knew a Sister, who was Lillian for the first 23 or so years of her life, and then was Sister Irma for the next SEVENTY... Is she Lillian or Irma??? That is a mind-bending question... It kind of goes along with something that I always think about... I know in heaven, we are not our earthly bodies, but in my mind's eye, I always think of the people I knew as they looked the last time I saw them.. but is that the case? Does it boil down to what you looked like at your last moment in life? Is someone at 92 still at essense who she was at 10, 25, 42, 60? Our faces and bodies change, but we still are ourselves...)

You've got me started on another tangent, ha!

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Posted: Sept 07 2007 at 9:55pm | IP Logged Quote chicken lady

isjalu0826 wrote:
I know in heaven, we are not our earthly bodies, but in my mind's eye, I always think of the people I knew as they looked the last time I saw them.. but is that the case? Does it boil down to what you looked like at your last moment in life? Is someone at 92 still at essense who she was at 10, 25, 42, 60? Our faces and bodies change, but we still are ourselves...)


I heard from someone, that in heaven we will all be 33. Old belief from somewhere, anyone know the orgin?
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Posted: Sept 07 2007 at 10:44pm | IP Logged Quote isjalu0826

Maybe it has something to do with Jesus dying at 33.

But what if you died before you were 33?
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