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Because we are starting our study of Latin this year, I would like to find a CD of traditional Mass chants and hymns in latin.
Does anyone have a favorite?
Amazon has one called Latin High Mass for Nostolgis Catholics;any idea if this is a good choice?
I am looking for something beautiful.
Thanks
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I just bought Lingua Angelica from Emmanuel (I think it's published through Memoria), which comes with a CD, easy workbook (just translations, really), and the sheet music. It's lovely.
For something quite complete, try Credo: 1000 Years of Catholic Music.
Also, for Masses beyond chant,
The Latin Mass
Pope JPII Celebrates Solemn High Mass at St. Peter's (Mozart)
5 Mozart Masses
And my personal favorite, Britten's Missa Brevis
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An interesting discussion of liturgical music is found on Episode THREE of their podcasts:The Brother's Catholic
If you can put up with the silly banter and grammar bloopers , listen to the resources they list towards the end of the podcast.
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Gregorian Chant is one of my areas of interest...I won't say "specialty" because I haven't mastered it , but I took some wonderful courses from Catholic University from the now late Dr. Theodore Marier, the foremost expert on Gregorian Chant. He went over to the Monastery in Solesmes to teach the monks how to sing. He was the editor of the great Pius X Hymnal which had the unfortunate demise because it was published right before Vatican II. He also was a key player in the Adoremus Hymnal. I would say that buying the Adoremus Hymnal CD or getting the organ edition with the cd is the best collection of chants for the Mass. This is a 4 disc set. The first cd walks through a whole Novus Ordo Mass with parts of the priest and people singing...it's VERY well done. If you are trying to get accurate basic Gregorian chant and trying to limit your purchases, this would be my recommendation.
He taught the sisters at the Abbey of Regina Laudis how to chant...they sing all their Divine Office. They have two wonderful cds and also offer a book and cd of chant class by Dr. Marier.
Variety of recordings of Chant from Paraclete Press. These have been around for a long time, but they are solid and well done, with a variety from around the Liturgical Year.
Around Pope John Paul II's funeral our family made a pilgrimage to the Seton Shrine in Emmitsburg. They had a great collection of choral and chant cds, and I picked up an album called Tu Es Petrus...except it's typed in Roman Latin, so you need to search for "TV Es PETRVS". This company has some WONDERFUL recordings Herald...this is what I pulled up searching "Gregorian." Gregorian Chant Gaudete. I don't have this recording, but I'm about to buy it. I clicked on "In Paradisum; Chorus Angelorum" which is sung at funeral Masses at the very end when the body is taken away...(see Catholic Encyclopedia for explanation)....and this recording sounded like the angels themselves were carrying up the soul to heaven. Just gorgeous! I keep telling my mother at my funeral I want it to be chanted in Latin...but I don't know WHO would do it!!!
There is a terrific course offered at Catholic U that teaches Gregorian Chant and the Ward method. Justine Ward in the 1920s created a course (working with the monks at Solesmes) to teach music through Gregorian Chant. If chant is supposedly simple and everyone can learn, it is easily the basis of all music. This Ward method is really brilliant...I taught it to elementary students for a few years. You learn ear training, sight singing, solfeggio, rhythm...If Libby has time in her summer, I would highly recommend taking course 1 and 4. .pdf of brochure for Summer 2005. If you've picked up older Catholic music textbooks, most of them are based in this method. To God with Music is one that I remember off the top of my head. There was actually a whole series done by Justine Ward that was used in the schools.
If this isn't enough, I have several other sources of Gregorian Chant cds around...
This site Musica Sacra has a collection of great links of Catholic scholas and choirs in America. I'm a subscriber to Sacred Music Magazine which is a solid publication reviewing new releases and discusses some of the positives and demises of the sacred music in our church today.
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I forgot one more mention...it's a collection of great Latin and English music, but mostly Latin. My mother was the choir director for this cd, and some of my siblings sing on it. Anyway, it's called Non Nobis Domine done by Seton School choir in Manassas, VA. I think it's pretty well done...I know I'm a bit biased, but I'm also extremely critical and honest. It's not musical perfection, but so many people that have bought have enjoyed it immensely... and so have I.
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We have the Adoremus organ edition with the CD, too. And find it very helpful. I have also used the
Lingua Angelica Music *CD* , it has the basic
prayers in latin as well as the music to the mass.
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Thanks Jenn. Summers are tight here , but I see that the Gregorian Chant class is taught by the Choirmaster who's in CT, not 40 minutes away. I wonder if he'd give her a few private pointers, as she can sight read easily (and we did not get the CD to go with the Adoremus hymnal, as all four kids can sight read pretty well...). The do some chant at Juilliard, and plenty of Bach. Last May the high school choir (which is all volunteer) did Faure's Requiem, and it was magnificent.
Did you go to CUA? I have been looking (slowly) at colleges to see which ones have "sacred music" majors, but I am at a loss...except when I look at the conservatories; it seems that sacred music is a lost art .
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MacBeth wrote:
Did you go to CUA? I have been looking (slowly) at colleges to see which ones have "sacred music" majors, but I am at a loss...except when I look at the conservatories; it seems that sacred music is a lost art . |
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Alas, no, I did not attend CUA...it's a long personal history, but after many years of pursuing music, I ended up with a history degree from Franciscan University of Steubenville. But I won't bore you with details.
I would ask Scott Turkington advice on that. Or Father Skeris, who's email is on the .pdf form. Or go to that "Musica Sacra" that I posted to find other "experts" that could give good feedback. I really think CUA is a good program, but I'm not positive.
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Some other resources I found:
St. Cecilia Schola Workshop Downloads includes the Jubilate Deo booklet of minimal Gregorian Chant that every Catholic should know. This was done by Pope Paul VI.
If you haven't found it already, Thesaurus Precum Latinarum (Treasury of Latin Prayers) is a great site to find side-by-side translations of prayers and hymns and such. The webmaster is very helpful, so if you need translation advice in this area, I think he can either provide or point you into the right direction.
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Where does one find the Adoremus Hymnal CD?
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Ignatius Press offers the cds separately for $14.95.
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Thanks, Jenn.
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