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Posted: May 22 2006 at 7:02am | IP Logged Quote Erin

I'm in the midst of planning a middle ages unit, but realise I need a cut off date. Where would the Early Middle Ages begin and end? What is considered the Late Middle Ages?

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Posted: May 22 2006 at 7:30am | IP Logged Quote Dawn

Erin, I am also planning a Middle ages unit and going roughly by the Kingfisher History Encyclopedia for a timeline and topics. It assigns the Early Middles Ages to 501-1100 and The Middle Ages proper as 1101-1460. Next listed is The Renaissance from 1461-1600.

Hope that helps.

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Posted: May 22 2006 at 9:01am | IP Logged Quote stacykay

We will be studying the middle ages next year. I have some resources and projects in mind, but may I ask what you will be using, aside from Kingfisher?

Also, how much of the protestant reformation do you plan to discuss with your dc? What would you cover? We have talked a little about this after listening to an "Adventure's in Odyssey" tape which spoke about William Tyndale. My 11yods would be the one I would be able to discuss this with in more depth, but I am not sure what I should cover or how to go over it with him.
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 3:40pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmom

We did the Middle Ages last year and I used 500-1500 as my rough guide. I actually ended up starting with a book on Charlemagne (Son of Charlemagne by Barbara Willard) and then going to the Vikings. We ended somewhere short of 1500, with some of the saints from the 1300's and 1400's.

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Posted: May 22 2006 at 6:19pm | IP Logged Quote Erin

Oh thanks for this, I was thinking of starting about 500 but wasn't too sure when to stop, I think I may stop at 1100.

Dawn ,
have you looked throught the archives here, there are lots of great resources mentioned.

Stacy,
I think I will tackle the Reformation as a separate unit, it is so vast. My children are aware in general conversation, we have many Protestant friends, but we have get to really takcle this issue. You've got me interested now.

Irene,
The saints are the problem as to where to cut off, I have a number of great saints books from the later period. Oh well, next time.
How many more weeks have you got to go now? I'm going to have to write everyone's dates on a calendar.



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Posted: May 22 2006 at 7:08pm | IP Logged Quote Dawn

stacykay wrote:
We will be studying the middle ages next year. I have some resources and projects in mind, but may I ask what you will be using, aside from Kingfisher?


Well, that's still up in the air. The Kingfisher book is really just a jumping off point for me as I plan. Last time we did Middle Ages (a few years ago) we used Story of the World (and I think we skipped the chapter on the Reformation ). This year I'll be teaching an 11 yo and 7 yo (with a 4 yo chiming in here and there) and I really want to piece it together myself ~ concentrate on certain things like saints of the period, how devotion to Mary blossomed at this time, stained glass and architecture, etc.

Erin, I do need to search the archives. At one point I had printed out a thread on the Middle Ages, but that "well-filed" piece of information seems lost forever so I will be looking it back up. Are you designing your own?

And Stacy, I'd love to hear what resources you are planning to use!


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Posted: May 22 2006 at 7:15pm | IP Logged Quote abcmommy

We just spent some time on this. My kids are quite young, (oldest is almost 9) but even older kids might enjoy some of the links I found. Would you like any links?

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Posted: May 22 2006 at 8:16pm | IP Logged Quote Erin

Dawn wrote:
Erin, I do need to search the archives. At one point I had printed out a thread on the Middle Ages, but that "well-filed" piece of information seems lost forever so I will be looking it back up. Are you designing your own?


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I found info in the archives under: Stained Glass Windows, Castles, Double Monasteries, Saints of the Middle Ages, Medieval history Unit and Middle Ages (9yh March 2005).

I am desigining my own, I always do. I seem to like the flexibility.    What I'm doing is pulling all the books off my shelves relating to the time period, I've also reserved everything the library has. I'm planning on picking out the best resources and going in the direction of what we have. Actually I best get a move on it as I plan on starting next week. I'll then plan activites etc around the books.


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We just spent some time on this. My kids are quite young, (oldest is almost 9) but even older kids might enjoy some of the links I found. Would you like any links?


I would love any links, although I usually just 'wing it' I would like to be a little more organised for this. We did Middle Ages a few years back and the children remember a little but not alot.


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Posted: May 22 2006 at 9:52pm | IP Logged Quote abcmommy

http://score.rims.k12.ca.us/activity/castle_builder/for older students than my 9 yo, too complex for him.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/castles/enter.html
my 9 yo enjoyed this. ghost theme may be objectionable for some.

http://www.yourchildlearns.com/her_act.htm
heraldry/ coat of arms LARGE printable

http://mw.mcmaster.ca/home.html
medievil women, very nice site

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/trebuchet/
my 9 yo liked this especially

http://www.kidsonthenet.com/
perfect for my 6 yo, very cute, must click near bottom, says "kids castle"

http://library.thinkquest.org/4051/titlepg.htm
a little simplistic, has a game. Made by middle schoolers. My ds was annoyed immediately bc they call the entrance to the castle a "door" and he felt sure that it would actually have a drawbridge and portcullis...


I use the web to supplement and let my kids explore "games" that reinforce what we learned, so these are largely just fun stuff that they were able to enjoy as a side dish to the meal of CHOW. we also ordered the middle ages kit from http://www.handsnhearts.com/
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 11:31pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmom

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I am desigining my own, I always do. I seem to like the flexibility.    What I'm doing is pulling all the books off my shelves relating to the time period, I've also reserved everything the library has. I'm planning on picking out the best resources and going in the direction of what we have. Actually I best get a move on it as I plan on starting next week. I'll then plan activites etc around the books.


Erin, it sounds like you plan history units exactly like I do.

As for how many weeks left, I assume you are asking about my pregnancy? I'm just about halfway there. I have my 20 week sonogram scheduled for Thursday.

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Posted: May 23 2006 at 4:28am | IP Logged Quote Dawn

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I found info in the archives under: Stained Glass Windows, Castles, Double Monasteries, Saints of the Middle Ages, Medieval history Unit and Middle Ages (9yh March 2005).


Thanks, Erin! This gives me a great head start on searching the archives.

I am sooo excited to study this time period with my boys! It is so rich in so many ways. Middle son just yesterday said "I hope we are going to do Robin Hood. I want him in there!"

We plan to start in August so I have some time to tinker.

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Posted: May 23 2006 at 9:27am | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

That is so funny! Ds and I were just discussing wanting to do Robin hood yesterday! Let me know what you find!

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Posted: May 23 2006 at 9:00pm | IP Logged Quote Erin

Has anyone used or heard of In The Hands of a Childthey are project ebooks.

i'd love to know what you think.

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Posted: May 24 2006 at 3:57am | IP Logged Quote Dawn

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Has anyone used or heard of In The Hands of a Childthey are project ebooks.


Erin, I haven't used them myself but I recently met another homeschooling mum who is really into lapbooking (and it turns out, Charlotte Mason!) and she recommended this site to me. I have only glanced at it so far, but I will ask my coop moms today if they know anything about it.

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Posted: May 25 2006 at 12:24am | IP Logged Quote Erin

Well in just planning this unti I have realised how ignorant my own knowledge is. The Middle ages I had always considered is the Late Middle Ages.

If I follow the Early Middle Ages correctly then I haven't as many books as I thought. although we could follow it via the saints, St Augustine, St Benedcit St Bede, Gregory the Great. We could look at the growth of Christianity in Ireland and how the Monastic period influenced the later period. Also this is the period of Charlmagne. King Arthur fits into this period as well.

Basically I would time frame the Early Middle Ages from the end of the Roman Empire to the Beginning of the Crusades.

My trouble is I don;t know if the children will think this time interesting enough, they were wanting 'swords and fighting'. Although isn't there always battles in history?

I've been trying to think of hands on activites: here are some but I would love it if others have any more to suggest: Make a model of a Benedictine Abbey, Make a model of an early castle, Drawing illuminated letters, Write and illustrate a picture book on a saint.

I also need to think of some writing/reading assignments to give to my older children, more dd. However I have to tread lightly here as she can be resistant.

Don't know if I've been clear here, I've been rambling I know, just trying to sort this all out in my head.

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Posted: May 25 2006 at 11:53am | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

The Vikings are a big part of that period and alot of fun to do. Battles and weapons galore!
Here is a fun Viking game:Viking Quest
This website has alot of viking activities including reading comprehension, puzzles, diagrams to label, Rune alphabet, etc. Ds(10) really enjoyed these. The Vikings
We also did a map tracing the explorations of Leif Eriksson.
Here is a site to download a paper model viking ship to cut out and make. We did this and it turns out really cute.
Viking ship paper modelDs used it to make a cool diorama of a viking ship landing to attack a monestary.

King Arthur is really fun, too. Especially the Merlin angle-my ds loves anything magical. I will see if I can find what we used.

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