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I'm looking for reviews/comments on these, and also where to find them? I'm looking for some good history audio cd's to include in high school level history.
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Here they are. We love them. Here's a thread where I went into some detail.
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Thanks, Brenda. No wonder I couldn't find the cd's...they aren't on the homeschool store web site! I'm covering American History next year. Do you have the Cortes one, and is it one of the ones that is balanced, or should I be wary?
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Dear Books,
It's my understanding, (but I believe it's Jenn who can explain it best), the original Seton homeschool & day school were one. Today Seton homeschool is separate from the day school. Anne Carroll taught (or still teaches?) at the day school & they are the ones who make the cds available.
I don't know that any history book/cd can be called "balanced" since there is always the perspective of the author to consider. There is no doubt that all of the Anne Carroll cds are from a Catholic perspective, but I believe she does her best to look honestly at both sides.
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BrendaPeter wrote:
Dear Books,
It's my understanding, (but I believe it's Jenn who can explain it best), the original Seton homeschool & day school were one. Today Seton homeschool is separate from the day school. Anne Carroll taught (or still teaches?) at the day school & they are the ones who make the cds available.
I don't know that any history book/cd can be called "balanced" since there is always the perspective of the author to consider. There is no doubt that all of the Anne Carroll cds are from a Catholic perspective, but I believe she does her best to look honestly at both sides. |
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You got it about right, Brenda. Anne Carroll was the founder of the school in Manassas, a brick and mortar (her husband was one of the co-founders of Christendom College, about an hour away). Then she added the homestudy, which eventually became it's own entity. And so the tapes are from the Seton School, of which she is still principal.
Kelly in FL also talks highly of these tapes. I and almost all of my siblings took history (some also World Culture) taught by Mrs. Carroll. She has a great way of making history come alive, and does try to dispel some of the myths that have cropped up in history. She might be too enthusaistic in the other direction, but I don't think erroneous.
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Thanks so much, everyone. I'm excited about using the CD's. I am looking forward to adding some dvd's and audio cd's to our books for variety and to keep interest high. I think he's going to like it. 
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I like the tapes, too, and we have all of them. The kids really enjoy listening, and my kids like the "us vs. them" attitude of Dr. Carroll. I do too, to some extent, and the details of Catholic history are good to hear, but I always think that there's something missing in her presentations  . I don't think she so much misrepresents other cultures in opposition to Catholicism, but that she emphasizes the bad things about certain cultures without the good (or the interesting, in the case of America before 1492  ). That is why I would never use the tapes alone, just as I would never use the History Channel alone, or any history text or book without other sources.
OTOH, the Spanish Civil War tape gave me an insight into that amazing MESS more than any text book I have ever read. 
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MacBeth wrote:
That is why I would never use the tapes alone, just as I would never use the History Channel alone, or any history text or book without other sources.
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I completely agree. I'm still trying to figure out what else to use! lol Suggestions welcome...
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Dear Books,
You might also find this thread on the Teaching Company useful. The material is geared for older children so sometimes the teacher does bring up "inappropriate" topics. I once learned that the hard way  . The courses are taught from a secular viewpoint, but they are certainly worth looking at for the "other sources" that Macbeth mentioned.
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This is a great thread, Brenda. Thanks! In fact, I revived it just a few minutes ago.
I'm planning Am. history right now and most of Anne Carroll's lectures are not Am. history related. I'm thinking the Cortes one is a good idea, maybe the one's on Catholics in the US...Depends on if I end up using parts of Christ and the Americas or not. The Linwood Thompson dvd's sound great.
I always thought I'd use the History of US books, but I have heard terrible things about it lately, and I'm not all that excited to spend close to 200 dollars on books that have as many problems as these do. Anyone have any experience with them?
There's an informative review on the RC History site.
I'm planning Am. History for a 9th grader, btw...one who will be barely 14.
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What have you heard about the History of Us? A friend of mine is using them with her 7th grader (I think she is doing SL) and she loves them.
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Dear Books,
I'm planning on using Seton's 8th grade American History book next year for my son.
You also might want to try the Artner's set from Memoria Press. We love the "Everything You Need to Know About American History" book.
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That's funny. We are using the Seton 8th grade Am. history this year. I wouldn't say its a living book but that's what ds asked for, I'm happy with all that's been covered and it hasn't been triumphalist or overbearingly Catholic at all. One thumb down for not being literature based, but one thumb up for content and not revisionist history.
I've never heard of the Artner's set before. Does it cover high school level, too?
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Natalia wrote:
What have you heard about the History of Us? A friend of mine is using them with her 7th grader (I think she is doing SL) and she loves them.
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http://www.rchistory.com/A%20Review%20of%20A%20History%20of% 20US%20by%20Joy%20Hakim.pdf
Hi Natalia,
This is a loooonnnng article. A lot of it is about anti Catholic bias and I might be able to work around that by showing other resources. The biggest concern I have is under the heading Abortions and Family Life. I am APPALLED at the representation of the 50's and stay at home moms. After seeing the movie Mona Lisa Smile (about 50's feminism and womanly roles) I started a really fruitful email dialogue with my grandmother, who is now in her 80's, and I asked her about the type of portrayal that Hakim uses. She says it is absolutely revisionist history, based on a minority of women who were unhappy. And I will say that my grandma is a diehard conservative Lutheran who was raised on a farm, was a farmer's wife, and worked as a nurse in the evenings through most of her mothering years to make ends meet, so she is not your typical 50's woman. She's definitely a lifelong learner...the kind who reads The Count of Monte Cristo and Jane Austen to keep her brain alive and well into her eighties. She's my hero, but I digress...
Anyway, I think its easier to combat the anti Catholic omissions than it is to combat feminism in a 14 yr old. I work very hard to promote a strong view of the reverence of motherhood and being a family man/family woman and its one area where I really don't feel the need to present 'the other side' just to be fair. I'm hoping when they hear it in the world, they will respond with disgust at how insulting it is to women because of the environment we've encouraged throughout childhood.
So anyway, that's the main reason I don't want to use Hakim's books.
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Bookswithtea wrote:
That's funny. We are using the Seton 8th grade Am. history this year. I wouldn't say its a living book but that's what ds asked for, I'm happy with all that's been covered and it hasn't been triumphalist or overbearingly Catholic at all. One thumb down for not being literature based, but one thumb up for content and not revisionist history. |
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That's good to know!
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Techinically, it can be used for any grade. It's broken down into 8 units covering the different periods of American history. Each unit includes a basic fact sheet, study topics (taken from the Ed Hirsch books - 3rd-6th grade), and a reading list which includes lots of excellent (often OOP) history books, like the Landmark books.
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