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Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 11:43am | IP Logged Quote Bethany

I have the complete MM set and like it very much. However, I'm tired of printing . I uploaded what I would need this year to Office Depot to see how much it would cost for them to print and it's $97 for BW . I know it costs a lot in ink to print at home also, but at least I can cut out the unnecessary pages and reduce the bulk and cost.

How do you use MM? Is there another way I'm not thinking of? We're in flux this fall and I need to have everything easily available and complete. Usually, I just print off in segments as needed.

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Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 12:27pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Do you have the newer PDFs? I believe they are typable, so you could eliminate paper altogether if you wanted to let them do math at the computer.

In the past, I have printed the whole year's worth, put it in an XL binder, and than used one of these hybrid notebook binders for daily work. I'd put several lessons in, and when complete, just swap them out for the new ones, replacing the completed work in the big binder. It could not have been anywhere close to that much to print them. I can have my cartridge filled at Costco for $8 and pick up a ream of plain paper at staples for FREE or $1 during sales.

Now, we use MM as a supplement and only do 2-3 lessons from the
Blue series per week, so not quite as much printing. I am currently using notebooks with daily checklists and written assignments organized by day, so having it printable is actually perfect for me. I am fortunate that I have access to a heavy duty binding machine at dh's work and only had to buy the coils and covers. Still, have you considered printing off a term's worth at home sans the unnecessary pages and just taking it in to have it bound? I don't think binding on its own is so very costly.

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Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 9:28pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Could you share what MM is?

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Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 9:55pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

MM = Math Mammoth

Bethany wrote:
I have the complete MM set and like it very much. However, I'm tired of printing . I uploaded what I would need this year to Office Depot to see how much it would cost for them to print and it's $97 for BW . I know it costs a lot in ink to print at home also, but at least I can cut out the unnecessary pages and reduce the bulk and cost.

How do you use MM? Is there another way I'm not thinking of? We're in flux this fall and I need to have everything easily available and complete. Usually, I just print off in segments as needed.

I can't imagine $97 to print!

I print at home, in color, on my home printer (Epson Workforce 840 - which I LOVE!!). I print an entire book - whether it's an entire concept (blue series), or an entire grade (light blue). I really prefer using the concept books in the blue series, btw. Anyway, then I bind the books individually using my Proclick (great background reading and info on book binding here).

For my printer, it costs about 10 cents/page to print in color - which is about $10 for a 100 page book. However, that number is about to change since I've just started refilling cartridges at Costco, making home printing even more affordable! My ink cartridges last a very long time as well, so I can print many pages on a set of cartridges.

Hope that helps! I would definitely consider home printing and check to see if you can refill ink cartridges at your local Costco (if you have one nearby). Then, you can either 3 hole punch and put in a binder for the year, or look into a different kind of home binding option.

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Posted: Aug 06 2013 at 8:27am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

The Costco refills have been so great! The trick for me is that I can't always predict when dh is going to go, so I'm thinking it will be easier to have two of each so the need to fill it isn't urgent.

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Posted: Aug 06 2013 at 10:21am | IP Logged Quote AmandaV

I need to look into refills! ( I don't really use MM, though I have grades 1-3 light blue). I was wary because we tried them on an old hp and it was not user friendly. Do you have the refill done for you or buy ink to pour in? We run through black ink like crazy, and I don't feel I print that much.


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Posted: Aug 06 2013 at 10:34am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

They fill it for you! I have a canon, but I haven't had a problem. Photographers will tell you the ink is a lesser quality, but for our purposes, it has not been an issue.

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Posted: Aug 06 2013 at 10:42am | IP Logged Quote kristacecilia

I do like Jen- although I have been known to print it in black and white on my laser printer. Very cheap.

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Posted: Aug 06 2013 at 10:53am | IP Logged Quote Angi

We used MM for 3rd grade for 2 of the children. I would print 2 MM pages on each side of a piece of paper (4 MM pages per paper). The girls would do their work on notebook paper, rather than on the worksheet. I have had children as young as second grade learn to not write on a paper. This is a skill that will require teaching especially for the organizationally challenged.
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Posted: Aug 07 2013 at 9:21am | IP Logged Quote Bethany

Well, after looking over the 6th, 5th, 3rd, and 2nd grade complete years, I decided just to continue using the blue series. That means less printing at this point. I have a little more to do for the 2nd grader and then we'll be set for a few months. I like the blue series also and found the light blue series a little difficult to pick up since we had been using the blue series.

I needed to print it off since I could be without a computer and printer for a couple of months. I'm trying to get prepared !

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Posted: Aug 07 2013 at 1:51pm | IP Logged Quote SuzanneG

We use mainly the LIGHT BLUE series, and I print a half-grade at a time. So, just yesterday I printed....
1b (130 p)
6a (200 p)
4b (170 p)
5a (169 p)

It should be approx 6 months of work.

I used to do sections at a time in a 3-ring-binder, but it got to be too much random printing, too much interruptions, and chaos. I HAVE to have everything done for as long as possible, or it's just another interruption and adds to the chaos.

We started off using the BLUE series as reinforcement, and I would print off as needed. The BLUE series is meant for review, reinforcement, for filling in gaps, for supplements, which is what I used them for at the beginning.

But, now that we're using them year-round and as a full curriculum, I print one full (or half) book, proclick and bind it with these spirals.

Jen, do you remember what SIZE these were? Were they 28 mm? I can't remember exactly, but they work just fine and hold even the 200+ books. Jen and I split an order of these a couple of years ago, so it cut down on costs, because neither of us needed 100 of those! I could do with 25 actually. So if any of you thought you would do this, post here and maybe find someone to split an order with you.

No covers or cardstock needed....they are HUGE and stiff on their own!

Yes, there is a lot of pages. The cost of paper is nothing ($1 reams at Staples). I print on one side at a time, and then when they've completed a book, I take it apart and print on the back for the next book. The kids go through the book and draw a crayon mark through the left side pages, for the younger kids so they don't get confused.   

I don't have a "great updated printer" and I'm not out of ink after all that printing yesterday, so for 6 months of work for four kids, even if I used ALL the ink up, it would still not be that expensive.

And, so nice to know about COSTCO!!!!!


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Posted: Aug 07 2013 at 3:28pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

CrunchyMom wrote:
The Costco refills have been so great! The trick for me is that I can't always predict when dh is going to go, so I'm thinking it will be easier to have two of each so the need to fill it isn't urgent.

This is what I do. When a cartridge is empty it goes into a ziploc and into my bag. Drop it off when you walk into Costco the next time - shop - pick up on way out. having duplicates of each cartridge you need means you can just stop in for a refill without it being an emergency.

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Posted: Aug 07 2013 at 3:37pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

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Jen, do you remember what SIZE these were? Were they 28 mm? I can't remember exactly, but they work just fine and hold even the 200+ books.

Edited....Ours are the 25 mm size, 3:1 pitch size which will comfortably hold 220 pages.

When I print the light blue series (an entire grade at a time), I print the entire year and bind with the Proclick using the 28 mm spiral and it works just fine holding the entire year's worth of a book, too. I print on 24 lb paper.

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Posted: Aug 07 2013 at 3:45pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

I made a mistake and corrected....
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Edited....Ours are the 25 mm size, 3:1 pitch size which will comfortably hold 220 pages.

By the way, the picture I uploaded on the top of page 4 of the whopper book binding thread is actually a picture of the Year 2 Math Mammoth book - the entire year - bound with the 25 mm coil.

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Posted: Aug 20 2013 at 12:18pm | IP Logged Quote hmbress

Jen, I have the same printer as you, but thought that you couldn't refill the cartridges, that they have chips inside programmed to read empty after a certain number of pages printed, and that refilling doesn't reset that chip?

Just curious ... perhaps what I've read about that online is misinformation?

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Posted: Aug 20 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged Quote SuzanneG

My husband refilled his cartridge at Costco the other day and it works great! $9.99 each here.....for BW and color. Still about $4 cheaper than the "discount ink cartridge" places.

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Posted: Aug 20 2013 at 7:02pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

hmbress wrote:
Jen, I have the same printer as you, but thought that you couldn't refill the cartridges, that they have chips inside programmed to read empty after a certain number of pages printed, and that refilling doesn't reset that chip?

Just curious ... perhaps what I've read about that online is misinformation?

The printer cartridge I use (#126/127) is refillable. Costco has a list of printer cartridges that they refill.

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Posted: Aug 21 2013 at 5:49am | IP Logged Quote kristacecilia

I really need them to start doing this in Canada. We are finally getting the gas station in our Costco, so maybe there is hope that they will do it soon.

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