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Babs
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My son is using the CHC Speller, level B. He is a very good reader and is reading all kinds of books, not just chapter books. However, he is really having difficulty with spelling. After he completes a spelling lesson and has practiced writing the words, he gets half of them wrong. When he practices again and retakes the test, he might get some of the words right but others wrong. I have never had a child like this. I am not sure what to do or what the problem is. Has anyone ever seen this or do you know what the problem is or how to help him? I would really appreciate your advice. Thanks.
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I used to use CHC spellers. My dc were able to "memorize for the test" and then promptly forget how to spell the words in everyday writing. We changed to a newer program called All About Spelling and everyone is REALLY LEARNING how to spell! I am really impressed!! Dd will be through Level 3 by Christmas and ds is in the middle of Level 2. As I mentioned in a prior post, I like it so much, I am an affiliate for the program. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about it.
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Christine - Thanks for the suggestion I am going to look into this tomorrow.
I was wondering if anyone has tried Spelling Mastery? It was recommended to me but I don't know anyone who has used it.
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Babs,
Three of my four sons have this problem with spelling. The oldest is in college now and uses spell check! I wouldn't worry too much about this.Good spellers are born, not made! Spelling, like math, is easily graded and thus tends to grow large in the curriculum. Charlotte Mason warned about this. I have been using Seton Spelling with my boys this year and they really like it. Their spelling has improved from abysmal to just really bad.  I would guess CHC is similar. Good luck!
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Our reading specialist hated spelling lists. She believes in just doing copy work and dictation. She had us copy a passage that they were familiar with. Then we would go through the passage and point out all the patterns.
"Oh look, there is a long vowel, consonant, silent e. And,here's another one!"
"Here is that bossy R again making the er sound."
Then they had to do the dictation of a short passage three times. That really solidified the spelling for some of my more troubled spellers! 
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We have had success with Write to Read and Spell (based on the Spalding Method). The idea is that the first 2000 most frequently used words are taught to a child in a way that makes sense (phonetically with logical rules). It is a teacher intensive program since you have to read the word and then check and make sure it has been spelled and marked correctly, but it gives a child a good grasp of why words are spelled the way they are.
If you'd rather not spend the time, you can always look up a list online of the most frequently used words (i.e. Dolch list, Fry list, etc...) and have your son practice those words for mastery. In this way, most of the words your son is likely to use will be spelled correctly.
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I, too, use the CHC materials. I've also used other spelling texts, as well as drilled, and done other spelling games with no real progress with my son. He seems to be naturally non-gifted in spelling, but has many other talents. We choose now to focus on his talents and not weaknesses, since nothing has seemed to help us in the spelling area. Two of my other children are excellent in spelling, another child so-so. Best of luck, but I think Shari in NY is right.
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All About Spelling is the best! In 10 years of homeschooling and several spelling programs, I have never seen anything like it. Something about those magnetic letters that really make things stick.
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I also love All About Spelling. I am using with my autistic, severely language delayed son. I am even considering becoming an affiliate! AAS is so logical, so easily customized for the child. multi-sensory (I too love the tiles), and starts at the right place -- the phonograms and segmentation. AAS makes the Orton-Gillingham method accessible to moms and other non-experts. It's also easy to use for mom as well.
And now AAS is expanding into a reading program as well. The brand new Beehive Reader 1 is exceptional. It's a Smythe-sewn hardback with illustrations on each page of text, carefully chosen font, and sweet, wholesome stories. I love it. It passes my "Grandma Test" -- something I love so much I would keep it for my grandchildren. The only thing I don't like is the pages are off-white. I prefer white pages. For anyone who is interested, it's on sale until the end of the month IIRC.
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Hi Deborah,
I truly want to shout from the rooftops about AAS! I can understand why you would become an affiliate. We've tried several different spelling programs (Writing Road, Sequential Speller & Phonetic Zoo) with our oldest ds who is strong auditory learner. I'm now using AAS with our 10-year-old dyslexic ds and having his older brother learn the rules and jump in where I think it will help him. I've never seen anything like the retention with this program.
Here's yesterday's story that I'm planning to write to AAS about. My son was struggling with writing the word "truck". He spelled "trunk" initially. When I asked him to read it, he read "trunk". Then he kept changing the vowel to fix it. We pulled out the magnetic board with the letters & he segmented each letter. He pulled down the t, r & u & then looked at me and said "Oh, I know!" & went and grabbed the ck. There's something about separating out the physical act of writing and those magnets!
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Brenda,
You are so right about separating the spelling and the writing. I can see the struggle for my son to manage writing and spelling simultaneously. (He has just finished Step 6 of Level !.) It's also nice that the vowels are red and the consonants are blue -- it's so visual. I know that I couldn't really even begin spelling with my son if I were not using AAS. Starting with segmentation is so logical -- it is hard to see why other programs don't do it. Without that and the logical, incremental nature of AAS, spelling would be arbitrary and difficult for him.
I just started reading The ABCs and All Their Tricks. It is really interesting to read about why we call long vowels long and short vowels short, why people want to end certain words in an R sound, and so on. It also gave me an Aha! moment when I read the rule for ending with "ck" or "k." I never knew there was a rule. It's so simple! I mean, I have learned to spell well enough anyway, but it is interesting to me to see the actual rules. It's not a book for kids, but is is a fascinating reference for me.
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Oohh! this all sounds so good. I'm really interested in AAS but the link isn't working. What company makes this program?
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Jody,
All About Spelling is the company. Here is a link:
All About Spelling
HTH!
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Suzanne,
Give the Linky-Fairy my thanks. I haven't learned how to do that yet.
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I have to jump in, too, about All About Spelling! We love it here, as well. We switched mid-year, and both my dd and I love it. The littles love to play with the CD on computer  , maybe they'll pick some of it up. My dh says he wishes it was taught this way when he was young, he might be able to spell today.
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