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Please bear with me, I'm science challenged 
I'm beginning to get together the books to bring to Austria and I need to order a Chemistry book for my Cate. Now I think I want to use the "easy way" series for the background (dh is a PhD in biological sciences and can help her with the labs  ).
Anyway -- looking on Amazon, there are two easy way books:
Chemistry the Easy Way
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Organic Chemistry the Easy Way
Now, I'm figuring the just plain chemistry is what I want -- but what's the difference between the two? What makes some chemistry "organic" and some not? Any elucidation would be MUCH appreciated!
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Organic chem is usually a college class for chem/pre-med majors. A high school class is usually general chem.
I know you are trying to pack light, but here is where I plea for living books  . Chem is way more interesting if it is appealing to the literate mind, as well as the mathematical mind.
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You want the general chemistry to start. Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds and associated molecules of living organisms and is considered a more advanced course. You would need the basic chem to understand organic. Organic is usually taken in college after two general chem courses.
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MacBeth wrote:
Organic chem is usually a college class for chem/pre-med majors. A high school class is usually general chem.
I know you are trying to pack light, but here is where I plea for living books . Chem is way more interesting if it is appealing to the literate mind, as well as the mathematical mind. |
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Dearest MacBeth -- suggestions for living chem books -- I'd rather go that route anyway.....
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Mary G. wrote:
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Organic chem is usually a college class for chem/pre-med majors. A high school class is usually general chem.
I know you are trying to pack light, but here is where I plea for living books . Chem is way more interesting if it is appealing to the literate mind, as well as the mathematical mind. |
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Dearest MacBeth -- suggestions for living chem books -- I'd rather go that route anyway..... |
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quoting myself, bu Macbeth seriously -- do you have some good Chem living book suggestions? I checked your website and didn't see any. She's my literate one so any lb's would be especially appealing to her....
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Mary, did you check my chem page? I think there are a few.
Favorite living chem books:
The 13th Element
Life's Matrix (Philip Ball is an atheist, and in one book refers to "the Hebrew god" [sic]. I found that a bit offensive  , but this books is great).
Mendelyev's Dream
I have been wanting to read
Napolean's Buttons but I have not had a chance yet.
Also, consider Strong Poison by Dorothy Sayers...forensic chemistry with Lord Peter Wimsey!
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MacBeth wrote:
Also, consider Strong Poison by Dorothy Sayers...forensic chemistry with Lord Peter Wimsey! |
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I hadn't even thought of that one! I love DLS and the Wimsey mysteryies -- wish she'd been as prolific as Christie  !
Thanks for hte books -- I'll check those out.....
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I'm so sorry -- I looked but didn't see (maybe I'm reverting to teenageness  )
Again, thanks for all the suggestions -- my library has almost ALL of them so I can peruse before purchasing. The Joy of Chemistry (which they don't have) looks like a good "spine" -- would it be better than "Chemistry the Easy Way"?
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I love the Joy of Chem...with the offending passages blacked out (see chem page commentary). I would use it over nearly everything, but Easy Way might be more rigorous for the stoichiochemistry.
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To use a foreign language also, "wo ist das?"
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Molecular equation balancing and predictability sorts of things.... 
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MacBeth wrote:
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wow -- and these words just come tripping off your tongue? You REALLY need to meet my husband -- he talks like this too!
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Not in public.
But seriously, I am not a chemist, so I look for books that make chem interesting to me. Libby loves chem, and I think it's because of the living books additions.  . Oh, and don't forget this line form my home page:
Chemist Hideki Shirakawa of Japan, 2000 winner of the Nobel Prize in chemistry, said, in an interview in the Asahi Evening News, that long hours of nature study were critical in his formation as a scientist.
In fact, my childhood natural history mentor is a world-famous biochemist.
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I guess I'm not quite ready for Austria -- that should have been "was ist das?" I asked you, where is this. I must have been rattled by all the scientific jargon!
Yes, we'll be doing tons of nature study == the village sits in th shadow of some great hiking hills filled with great flora, fauna and little animals..... 
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Where is the village? Dh's s-i-l is from Liechtenstein, and her 1st cousin is the Archbishop of Vaduz. I hear the hiking, and the Mass, is great there. Definitely worth a visit, if it's close.
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The village is about 1.5 hrs SW of Vienna in Lower Austria -- so closer to Slovakia/Hungary than Germany, Lichtenstein. But we'll (hopefully) be traveling all over the area -- we probably won't come back tot he states as it's so expensive -- so we'll spend all our vacation times in Europe, especially the Germanic and Eastern European places....
I'll definitely put Vaduz on the list! Thanks for the recommendation.
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