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Posted: Nov 12 2009 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote ~Rachel~

I received this link on another homeschool group, and just had to share it here
My kids were suitably impressed
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Posted: Nov 12 2009 at 4:01pm | IP Logged Quote cvbmom

Impressive!


Thanks for sharing...
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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 7:02am | IP Logged Quote Jen L.

Thanks!

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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 10:49am | IP Logged Quote Stephanie_Q

This is cool. I have an old (1957) book called "Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps" by Kees Boeke that starts with a picture of a lady holding a cat in a chair and moves out through 26 pictures from 1:10 o 1:10^26, showing all the galaxies of the universe reduced to dots.

Then it goes the other way from the picture of the lady holding a cat and zooming in from 1:10 to 1:10^-13, picturing the nucleus of the sodum atom in a salt crystal on the lady's hand.

It would be great to see this book "updated" with photographs and illustrations based on what we know today.

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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 10:57am | IP Logged Quote Willa

Thanks Rachel!

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WOW!! Thank you so much - this is incredible!

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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 7:04pm | IP Logged Quote AtHomeScience

The Cosmic View book looked neat so I went to see if my library had a copy. It doesn't, so I looked for it through a used book seller. I have not seen a copy for less that $100, lol! You have a rare and interesting book there!

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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 7:52pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

I love that animation. The whole site really is a treasure trove of genetics goodies. I've been on their mailing list for a while now, and if you dig around you'll find all kinds of useful stuff.
btw there is a nice printable activity to go along with that animation here:coffee to carbon

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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 8:10pm | IP Logged Quote ~Rachel~

OOOh thanks for sharing Theresa!

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Posted: Nov 13 2009 at 9:51pm | IP Logged Quote Stephanie_Q

AtHomeScience wrote:
The Cosmic View book looked neat so I went to see if my library had a copy. It doesn't, so I looked for it through a used book seller. I have not seen a copy for less that $100, lol! You have a rare and interesting book there!

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Well that's a first! I found it on-line here:
Cosmic View and this site has a link to another version at Caltech and if you click on his "A View From the Back of The Envelope" link, there's more related to approximation, scale, etc. Hope some of you find it helpful in addition to Rachel's site that started this post...

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Posted: Nov 14 2009 at 12:18am | IP Logged Quote MaryM

That was a really cool link, Rachel.

Stephanie - I found that online version earlier today and was going to post it, too. I love finding resources like that online - especially when it turns out to be so expensive or hard to find in a hard copy.

Isn't Mary Daly's The Universe in My Hands a similar type of study? - looking at the differences in magnitude of things in the universe - starting with us and going down smaller to quarks, then going up in magnitude to the universe. Anyway, the cosmic view book definitely made me think of that.

And also of the children's picture book, Is a Blue Whale the Biggest Thing There Is? Does anyone know of other picture books that cover this - either increasing or decreasing magnitude?

This one looks like a possibility - Big and Small, Room for All

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Posted: Nov 14 2009 at 1:38am | IP Logged Quote MaryM

Hey, I was trying to find out more about this author, Kees Boeke - wondering if he would be another good OOP science author. He developed an educational process he called sociocracy. The goal of this form of education was to teach children a sense of democracy - very liberal guy it sounds like.

Anyway, I also discovered this - has anyone seen IMAX's Cosmic Voyage which is based on the Cosmic View book?

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Rachel-
That was a great video demonstration!

I found another great rabbit trail through a comment left by a reviewer on Amazon for the book that Stephanie mentioned, Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps. The reviewer suggested a movie made by Charles and Ray Eames entitled Powers of 10. I tried and tried to register on the site to watch the video...but I'm not having luck right now. I'm not sure the site is being maintained as there are a few other inactive links I found, but there's still a lot more to explore...

Powers of 10 day - which we just missed - October 10.

Explore the powers of 10

Powers of 10 Activities - I'm kind of bummed because most of the links on this page are inactive, but there is a link to play a Powers of 10 game that does work!

Extensive booklist including 215 books to explore on the powers of 10!

What a fun thread! This could inspire an entire theme of science!

MaryM wrote:

Isn't Mary Daly's The Universe in My Hands a similar type of study?

It is! I always had trouble pulling together ideas for it and fleshing it out, but this thread has prompted a number of ideas and book suggestions that I'm going to throw some time and energy into trying to come up with a booklist and plan for my son's science next year. I think it could be really fun!

Thank you so much Rachel, for linking the great video that prompted this fun rabbit trail for me!

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You can also get What's Smaller Than a Pygmy Shrew? also by David E. Wells. That's one of my children's favorites!

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You can see the original Powers of Ten video on YouTube. It is definitely a "classic."
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lapazfarm wrote:
You can see the original Powers of Ten video on YouTube. It is definitely a "classic."
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Thank you so much, Theresa! I was so bummed that I couldn't watch it on their site.

That was some catchy music, huh? But, the movie was a fantastic addition to this discussion.

I pulled down my copy of Mary Daly's The Universe in My Hands and found that she references both Kees Boeke's Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps as well as Ray and Charles Eames' The Power of 10 as sources of inspiration for her program.

I found a couple more books too...

Heaven and Earth: Unseen by the Naked Eye by David Malin and Katherine Roucoux - photographs

Powers of 10 - A Flipbook by Charles Eames. This little book looks neat...but is ridiculously expensive! Library?

Wish I could find some more picture books!

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Posted: Nov 14 2009 at 8:08pm | IP Logged Quote Stephanie_Q

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Anyway, I also discovered this - has anyone seen IMAX's Cosmic Voyage which is based on the Cosmic View book?


So weird that I should even run across this, but you can watch "Cosmic Voyage" for free on HULU. Guess you know what I'll be watching tonight.

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Mackfam wrote:

I pulled down my copy of Mary Daly's The Universe in My Hands and found that she references both Kees Boeke's Cosmic View: The Universe in 40 Jumps as well as Ray and Charles Eames' The Power of 10 as sources of inspiration for her program.

So, has anyone ever used this program successfully? I know lots of people have tried it-- it's been discussed here many times before. Several have said they never figured out how to make it work, but no one has said it has actually worked for them. I have never seen it personally, but it always sounded like such a good idea to me. I wonder what the problem is?

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Posted: Nov 16 2009 at 10:09am | IP Logged Quote AtHomeScience

Here's another interactive site showing powers of 10 using length measurements:

Molecularium

Click on the top right button that says Nanolab when you mouse over it, and then click the Zoom option.

You can also use the Build function to make molecules, and Transform function to change the states of matter--great for Chemistry study!

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Posted: Nov 16 2009 at 4:20pm | IP Logged Quote Stephanie_Q

Here's what I thought of "Cosmic Voyage": Disappointing. After they did a "Powers of 10 / Cosmic View" zoom out / in, they launched into the "Big Bang" theory and the things they're learning as they explore further outwards into space. (They didn't say we evolved out of the slime, but just that that humans "appeared" on the scene x number of years after all this happened.) Then they highlighted the advances we've made in being able to explore and learn about smaller and smaller things and wrapped up with the idea that people will to continue this kinds of scientific exploration as they seek to answer the questions about the meaning of life...

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