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Hi! I'm looking for an answer for my 7 yr old son from all of you wise and wonderful women!  Yesterday, as we were discussing Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden, he asked when God created the dinosaurs. Who came first, Adam and Eve or the dinos? I of course told him Adam and Eve, to which he responded "but there weren't any people around when the dinos roamed the earth"......when did he stop accepting all of my answers as gospel truth and start thinking on his own???
So I told him those were wonderful questions and to ask daddy when he got home.  Daddy didn't have an answer either and suggested I ask ya'll  Any suggestions?
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I don't have my direct references right here, but a few thoughts.
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Actually, if you follow the days of creation, animals came before Adam and Eve. Man was created last to take care of the animal and plant kingdom.
There are different interpretations of creation. I'm not a literalist...the 6 days of creation weren't necessarily 24 hour days. One interpretation is that each "Day" could have been years and years...like the millions scientists talk about our earth being so old. Dinosaurs could have existed and even died out before Adam and Eve were created. Or SOME of the breed of dinosaurs could have died out or evolved into the smaller ones before Adam and Eve.
But there is proof in fossils that both man and dinosaurs roamed the earth at the same time...a fossil with a man's footprint next to a dinosaur's footprint...both dated from the same time. I don't know which type of dinosaur.
To take this theory a little farther, when it came time for Noah to fill his ark, dinosaurs weren't on the list. So when the waters covered the earth, the dinosaurs were killed.
But most of this is speculation...trying to put pieces together. We believe in the story of creation and that Animals came before Adam. We've seen fossils, know there was a Great Flood, and now there are no dinosaurs.
But I like to quote from a movie The Inn of the Sixth Happiness: "No one knows for sure."
That's one of the mysteries we'll find out when we die. 
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Here's a link...
Creation Museum
Lots of food for thought here.
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You should be aware that Answers in Genesis is looking at creationism from a purely Protestant perspective. The Catholic Church does not view Genesis as a science text and an old-earth, or even evolutionary (obviously not atheistic evolutionary!) perspective is entirely consistent with our Faith. The book Creator and Creation from Ye Hedgeschool gives a thorough introduction to creationism from a Catholic perspective. You can also find a link on the same page to a book review containing a lot of information about the Church's teaching on creation.
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What Kathryn said... 
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Kathryn UK wrote:
You should be aware that Answers in Genesis is looking at creationism from a purely Protestant perspective. The Catholic Church does not view Genesis as a science text and an old-earth, or even evolutionary (obviously not atheistic evolutionary!) perspective is entirely consistent with our Faith. The book Creator and Creation from Ye Hedgeschool gives a thorough introduction to creationism from a Catholic perspective. You can also find a link on the same page to a book review containing a lot of information about the Church's teaching on creation. |
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Sorry about that! I knew about the protestant perspective thing and with the baby sqirming I didn't have time to mention it. Thanks! I should wait til midnight to do my posts!
Oh, and thanks for the other link...I didn't know about that one.
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I have to say that I disagree with the ideas put forth here...but I don't have time for a big discussion on the subject. The scientific evidence for creation is overwhelming, though I am sorry that it is only the protestants who seem to be doing the research. All studies of math and science should and do ultimately solidify and increase our faith.
I worry when we try to water down the creation story by saying that each day was actually thousands or millions of years long. First of all, this diminishes the greatness of the miracle of creation. I mean, of course God could create the earth in six days, but He could also create in an instant if He wished. There is significance to the six days of work and one day of rest.
Secondly, if we believe that God inspired the writer of Genensis, then why have we to doubt the accuracy of the story? He could have and would have stated that..."In the second thousand years, God made a firmament and called it Heaven. Then, in the the third thousand years, God said..."
This kind of breaking down of Truth can have a trickle affect. I have heard some suggest that the parting of the Red Sea was due to some naturally occuring annual weather pattern that Moses anticipated. And, of course, we all know that lots of people including Catholic priests, believe that there is no Real Presence.
I am aware that the previous Pope promoted a compromise belief now called popularly called intelligent design, but he did not make it dogmatic. Of course, God made the rules of nature and nature follows these rules, but that does not conflict with the fact that God has told us that He created the earth in six days. I do not like getting into the business of telling my children that selective parts of scripture do not mean what they say. Please do not mistake that for any kind of sola scriptura theology; nonetheless, our traditions and divine revelations must always be compatible with scripture, not contradictory.
I guess, in the end, why not accept creationism? What are the roots of "intelligent design?" I believe the roots are in those who can't fully explain the atheistic version of evolution and who can't accept that we are all here due to a divinely creative and miraculously gift!
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teamgriswold wrote:
| Hi! I'm looking for an answer for my 7 yr old son from all of you wise and wonderful women! Yesterday, as we were discussing Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden, he asked when God created the dinosaurs. Who came first, Adam and Eve or the dinos? |
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Well, Thanks to Jennifer's post I shall now be brave and come out of the closet 
What do I tell my children in answer to this question? I explain that the animals were all created first and then Adam and Eve. I tell them that dinosaurs and man co-existed together (same time) and show them pictures of foot prints that are evidence of man and dinosaurs passing by the same spot in a matter of a short time span of one another. We have books courtesy of 'Creation Science Foundation' in our home- excellent resources.
Then of course the children's next question is 'where are they today?'. This leds to a discussion of The Great Flood, and how after the Flood there was a Great Ice Age and how this led to the extinction of dinosuars.
My children know about evolution, I tell them that both views are theory's. But of course as we hold to a Creationists view point our view comes from that angle.
Incidently my brother no longer practises his Faith, but he holds firmly to a belief in God because he VERY strongly believes in Creationism. He drove his live-in girlfriend batty waxing lyrical about the beauty of God's creation. All is not lost there.
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