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The new 'historical' AG doll is from the 1970's! Thats not history, thats our childhood! Julie
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Mary M and I were just talking about this the other day! Can you believe we're historical?????? And, remember that this is Mattel's idea of historical not necessairly reality (and certainly NOT MY VIEW!) 
The funny thing about this is I was in San Francisco in 1974 -- a junior in a Catholic girls' high school to be exact .... not many divorced kids that I knew .... not many people that dressed like "Julie" but hey, it's Mattel and Mattel's reality!
ETA: OOPS, I wasn't a Junior in '74! I'm not THAT much older than MaryM ... I was a 7th grader in a Catholic school in the middle of the Haight-Ashbury where the hippies were still a presence but it was an increasingly race-impacted area (mom's best friend was a principal there and it was a pretty good -- if mixed bag -- school). One day we came to school and there was a chalk line from a gang murder the night before ... so the peace/hope/free dope of the 70s wasn't everywhere!
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They skipped an awful lot of history didn't they? Is there anyone between Kit and Julie?
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You know what Bridget... I was just telling Mary G. on Friday that I was going to post this under the title "Calling all girls of the 70's!" (And I still might since some 70's girls are not yet 40  ) I do think it is very funny that we are now a historic era.
I guess the year for this Julie doll is 1974 and the AG dolls are generally considered to be 10 years old which would make her the same age I was in 1974. I was thinking about all the go-along books that they have when they bring out these dolls.
So what would the recipes in the cookbooks be?
-TV dinners
-fondue
-Tang
-anything microwaved
Remember the first microwaves or "radar range"? My friend's mom had the first one I ever saw. My mom didn't have one until after I was out of the house.
So what would the crafts be?
-macrame plant hangers
-beaded anything! like doorway curtains
-pet rocks
I love that her Christmas present in the catalogue is a Quick-curl Barbie head. And to think they are charging that much for a miniature when the original full-sized one was probably half that.
Okay, so who had a Quick Curl Barbie?
And speaking of dolls....who were your dolls in the 70's???
Velvet or Chrissy doll?
Mrs. Beasley?
Shopping Cheryl?
Baby Tender Love?
Drowsey?
Flatsy dolls
Little Kiddles?
Baby Come BackThe Sunshine Family?
Holly Hobby? (I know Cay did!)
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And while I was spending massive time linking to dolls - I see Mary G. already posted.
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I know. Chelsea just read the first Julie book and I didn't even scan it beforehand because...well, it's my life.  I'm assuming the Brady Bunch makes an appearance in it.
No, seriously, I'm a little anxious because the AG books are getting more into the modern day, but I made such a big deal about the Molly books taking place in 1944 (the same year Oma was born) that I figured I can't hide my childhood years from her either. The 1970's were the 70's.
I would preread a book set in the 1960's however.
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Elizabeth wrote:
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Molly and Emily - 1944, so they did skip over the 50's and 60's.
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I will have to admit that Mattel influenced a good portion of my 70's reality. 
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I would be very scared to find out what Mattel would do with a 60's doll; it's probably a good thing they didn't go there!
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My dd wished they'd do an earlier time frame, not 1970's. She doesn't think of that as historical enough.
Fondue, lol! It's in vogue again.
The first craft thing is called "petal power" and is about making fabric flowers.
What about woodburning kits? Anyone else have one of those? (I must have made 50 macrame hanging plant holders!) Another craft we did was to sandwich colorful goop between 2-3 layers of some kind of plastic and then cut the plastic into shapes. I hated doing that one...grinders aren't my favorite tools.
Copper enameling!
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First, I didn't "do" dolls -- I got a Barbie for my 10th bday and quickly had it beheaded (I was kind of a tomboy!).
Crafts now -- anything and everything recyclable -- painted rocks, driftwood art, potato prints, ubiquitous macrame (poor dad had no string left ANYWHERE in the house and I'd also snitch some from the "polly dryer" outside!), granny squares in the MOST obnoxious colors possible, tie-dye (the old-fashioned way where you basically got a brownish hue on everything). Later in the 70s it was the disco era so what we now call "bling" was BIG!
In SF, even in my Catholic schools, many of our teachers were basically hippies -- and living inappropriately it turns out -- but they were all good folks. I can trace my love (ok, some of you might say, "obsession") with crafts/needlework to these folks who encouraged the arts when many public schools were cutting "unnecessaries" out of the budget.
TV: Brady Bunch, Partridge Family, and then the big ones on Saturday night: All in the Family, Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart and SNL!
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MaryM wrote:
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They skipped going the other way too. I think it would have been interesting to do more with ethnic dolls and immigration a la Kirsten. The 1970s seems nostalgic but not historic. Mary Beth is totally not interested.
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Can you believe we're historical?????? And, remember that this is Mattel's idea of historical not necessairly reality (and certainly NOT MY VIEW!)
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How true, Mary. We need to keep this in mind, for sure.
Historical: important in history, belonging to the past
I know the 70's was not a long time ago for us but I'm afraid it's history non-the-less.
To add some authenticity to this, we could share with our girls historical events such as:
Oct. 16, 1978:
Karol Wojtyla elected Pope
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Leave it to Cay to draw out the good points to use!
I never had any of those cool dolls. Just baby dolls and my mother made all their clothes. We never went into toy stores either so I was most uncool, even then!
We were only allowed to watch the Brady Bunch and the Waltons. I think the boys were allowed BAtman after school. We were just outside or reading.
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We watched the Brady Bunch, the Waltons and Little House on the Prairie. And that is all. I have huge culture gaps that my dh find amusing to this day.
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Elizabeth wrote:
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I wasn't allowed to watch any of those! Dh saw them all. We have a definite culture gap in my siblings!
As far as dolls, we played with the Sunshine family, I had Francie, which was a flatter chested version of Barbie, and a Jody doll.
We didn't play with Holly Hobbie, but my mother made us Holly Hobbie dresses and bonnets. She also made us Raggedy Ann dolls from this pattern.
I just despise 60s and 70s fashions. It's frustrating to see elements keep making comebacks! A fifties (or younger eras) would be much more appealing to me!
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Most of my dolls were Tender Love though I know I had a Drowsy and a Mrs. Beasley (I had to 'cause Buffy did - can anyone tell me who "Buffy" is?).
My sister had Holly Hobbie and I had Holly's friend Heather.
I had TONS of Barbies (plus Dawn dolls and Tiffany Taylor) and baby dolls.
I got my last doll for Christmas when I was 13. At that point I still had 13 dolls all in playable condition. I LOVED playing house with all of them - hmmm...think God was preparing me for something?
I watched ALL the 70's and 80's shows. We grew up on TV . Brady Bunch - Partridge Family - you name it and I have most likely watched it - dh too. I can still sing all those Brady Bunch songs and of course that stupid theme song to Gilligan's Island.
Sad thing is I started watching soap operas (General Hospital) when I was in FOURTH GRADE! Wow what an education that was - how sad. My mom worked and we were home alone everyday after school and all day in the summer. No one monitored our TV watching - it was the babysitter.
Then again I can usually do well in Trivial Pursuit.
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Oh yeah and I had one of those anatomically correct male Baby Brother Tender Love dolls too. LOL at least I wasn't shocked when I had a baby boy for the first time!
And OH MY GOSH Talking Baby Tender Love was my favorite doll. I got her for my 5th birthday and I remember that day SO clearly. She was actually my first major doll. I named her Susie (after my best friend Susie) and I still had her when I was 18 but I don't know what happened to her as she got lost (or more likely tossed) when my parents moved.
All those phrases she used to say I can STILL say with the right intonation. "Night, night mommy", "Mommy so pretty", "Uh-oh, all dirty", Mommy wash baby?"
Oh my goodness isn't them memory an amazing thing.
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I sure can, if you just mean Jody's twin sister, niece of Uncle Bill. Now if you mean the name of the actress that played her, I would have to google "Family Affair."
Family Affair (in syndication though) is one of my first memories of TV shows I watched. (I was scared to ride in a bus after watching the episode where the twins fall asleep in the bus while traveling in Europe and get separated from the family when they got off!)
For quite awhile before that all I knew was Captain Kangaroo and Saturday cartoons. Speaking of 60s-70s cartoons, we are currently watching dvds of the old Underdog cartoon. We recently saw this summer's remake and it got my husband all nostalgic for the cartoon.
And, Michelle, I do pretty well at Trivial Pursuit for the same reasons - though I'm finding my memory is not quite what it used to be and I can't always recall something I know I SHOULD KNOW.
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Michele, you're so funny. You give us all hope that, even if we are well-versed in 70's sitcoms, we are not exempt from joining other women on this road to heaven. 
I remember The Waltons and Little House at night with my family. And I remember Saturday morning cartoons and watching special holiday programs (Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown, Little Drummer Boy, Rudolph, etc.) once a year with my brother.
I don't remember watching a lot of television but I do remember the Brady Bunch and Family Affair.
And I remember a stint of watching General Hospital in the afternoon time frame between my morning college classes and my afternoon class.
And my cousin and I received a Baby Tender Love doll one Christmas at my grandmother's house. I remember wanting that doll so bad and begging for her. She was a dream come true. And I had a Crissy doll too.
Speaking of dolls, I just posted about the fate of Kayleigh's favorite doll yesterday.
Happy memories, everyone!
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Ok, most of you are talking in Greek for me. We lived overseas and TV wasn't even available. Long distance phone calls were emergency only - and my dad had to say things like "over and out." My cultural gap was huge. We returned to the U.S. in 1975 and I was a 9th grader in 1974. I got to listen to the resignation of Nixon on Armed Forces Radio and TV (we didn't have the TV part) or use my shortwave to listen in to the broadcast from Australia. We also had kids in class recite commercials when they came back from a trip to Hawaii - that was really novel. But both my girls are beyond AG or dolls so ...
I never quite fit in to my high school class and do great with trivia pursuit as long as I don't get arts and entertainment. My dh laughs so hard cause I have never ever gotten one of those questions correct.
I believe I had a kiddle doll - if those were the little bitty things that came in perfume type bottles. We took them to school in our purses and played all through school. The poor teachers - between sunflower seeds and kiddle dolls. We also macrameed fancy holders to go on the glass balls we picked up (Japanese fishing floats) and watched the Soviet spy ships just outside territorial waters observing missle tests. Oh and monkey pod was the rage for my mom.
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