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This cracked me up.
Can you trust the "professionals"?
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Hilarious!
As a tall "person of size," I can really relate to her adventures in shopping. I worked high-end retail clothing in college (tip: all men over age 40 love Pendleton wool caps), so I am picky about fit. I'm on a tight clothing budget because shoes for my weird, bad feet cost so much. I'm secretly glad to know that my frustrations with fashion are real!
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Yes- "fashion" appears to be in the eye of the beholder, and it is good know that no one is exempt from struggling to find clothes that look good.
But, seriously, some of those outfits!! What was funnier- her comments or the outfits themselves? It reminded me of an Emperor's new clothes situation, with the sales people trying to convince her she looked great.
I especially enjoyed the skinny and straight leg jeans that looked exactly the same, and the sweater thing that crossed in front- what the heck was that thing? 
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I liked her observation that purveyors of women's clothing play on women's insecurities about their bodies to score sales. I think that's always true, no matter what size you are, because no matter what size a woman is, she probably hates something, if not everything, about her body.
(aaaaannnnnd when and how did we learn to be this way? was it always thus? did 15th-century Flemish women, after pondering Van Eyck's Marriage of Arnolfini,, sit around thinking, "Does this kirtle make me look pregnant enough? Can I wear this wimple with my hideously low hairline?" Or is this something that just came in with print (and then film, and then online) media, which allowed images of "desirable" women to be widely circulated as a basis of comparison for all the rest of us?)
But I think it's especially true for heavier women, who seem to get the whole "let's just hide this because there's nothing worth showing off" schtick. Not that I'm in favor of flaunting a lot of flesh, but what does it do to your psyche to be told that the best possible thing to do with most of your corporal self is just to cover it up, because really nobody wants to look at that? "They'll be so busy wondering how on earth you got into that criss-cross backwards sweater thing that they won't even notice there's an actual body in it! Score!"
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Well women were making themselves sick trying to match the waist size of Queen Elizabeth who was a small woman to start with.
I think there was always a beauty of the day that women tried to be. The Greek legends would have described beauty. Even the Bible, describes attributes that should be considered as/above beauty and those writings were often a response to how society was at the time.
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Well, right. And medieval/Renaissance women were plucking their hairlines. It's always been something. But the sheer variety of clothing options available to women today seems really unparalleled in earlier times -- and all these choices seem to bring all this angst with them, maybe because there's more a sense of something's being *individually* flattering to one person's body, rather than simply being a single ideal everyone who had the means would conform to in her clothing. (ie the wasp waist, or the bustle, or the pouter-pigeon blouse, or whatever).
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I do know that the women that I look at and consider their outfit flattering probably has less to do with the style than the fact that they are wearing an outfit that looks put together and that they're happy with. I guess it's the woman's care and happiness with her outfit that make it pretty.
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I think you're right. There's nothing more flattering than confidence. :)
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