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I like to incorporate this into our daily lives. You could however do this as Health or some other subject you create. I really think it's a great addition to homeschooling & by itself! I hope it's alright to post these links. I am really passionate about it. Take what you like & leave the rest-that's what I do! Here are some good starts:
Preppers Free Downloads (Ebooks)
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Welcome Wisewoman!! Isn't being prepared for emergencies just so important? Even regular schools take time and do various drills about how to respond to emergencies. Of course all they have to do is get the kids out rather than anything long term but I think it's a great idea to include our own emergency responses into our schooling.
As the wife of a firefighter, I would definitely encourage the more mundane emergency preps of fire escape plans and places to meet up.
Actually, thinking about it, we deal with a lot of things. Since we do things like camping and such out in the forests and also have had to consider evacuations for wild fires.
Did you know that the Boy Scouts have a merit badge just for this: Emergency Preparedness?
And of course anyone who travels should be prepared for little emergencies along the way, vehicle break downs, road hazards, traffic problems and other delays.
What particular things have you incorporated? Do you do something every day? or every week?. What age range are your kids?
That ebook link looks really interesting.. I have to get back to school (lunch break) but I'll check it out when I get some time later.
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Welcome!! 
I'm glad you brought this up. I asked one of the moms on FB if they knew of a group where we can discuss prepping, but from a non-fanatic, Catholic perspective. Haven't found one yet. I'd like our family to be prepared, but not to get overly anxious about it, IYKWIM...
Yes. Both Boy Scouts and AHG have Emergency Preparedness merit badges -- not sure about Trail Life, which my boys switched to after Eagle. Will have to ask. My kids know quite a bit, and we've done a little here at home (some food in the basement, backpacks (bug out bags), generator, etc)
Wow, that's a thorough link!! Thanks. Will show my hubby and the kids later... there's A LOT we still haven't done.
Some specific things I'd love to discuss with you all:
what essential oils do you stock? any special "recipes" you think should be in a prepper's arsenal?
how about Sacramentals? of course we have the basics, Rosaries, medals, blessed salt, blessed oil, etc. what else do you have?
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The essential oils that we have found most useful for us are really only 3.
Eucalyptus
Peppermint
Lavender
Eucalyptus is so great for sinus stuff, peppermint is useful for headaches, and lavender for stress. The lavender is also anti-bacterial/viral.
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Any suggestions for mint-averse people? I have one child who won't touch mint.
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Well, the things you find when you go hunting.. I'd try lavender and/or rosemary, Nancy. Apparently, they're both in the mint family but the rosemary does have pain relieving properties.
Also I found some very interesting independent studies being done as to the quality and compliance of various brands. The interesting thing is that most brands I've heard of are of very good quality so buying the more expensive brands is not necessarily, well, necessary.
The big thing that would be really nice to discuss for me is that any time the idea of storing food(or anything) comes up you seem to have two extremes.. those who find storing up to be fine and those who claim it's a lack of faith.. and then they may grudgingly give you a few weeks of stores but then claim it's hoarding.. now I fall in the it's ok to store up food or other things side.. but often it gets too heated a discussion to really get to the bottom of this. So I'd love to know if there's actual Catholic teaching on this.. and what it actually says.
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Good timing for this thread - September is Emergency Preparedness month.
Good thread - I ponder similar things to both Stef and Jodie re prepping and Catholics.
Also - the huge ? I have is Catholics and firearms to protect their prepping. All preppers seem to be really into firearms - also priests like Father Z. But I have a certain degree of uneasiness about this....
Another question - is how to be prepared in smaller spaces in the suburbs - no huge storage space, no well water, no woodstove, no generator.....
Another question that I ponder - how to move to a more self-sufficient lifestyle? Move to the country, buy land etc etc??
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Re essential oils:
1. Eucalyptus - I use tons of this stuff - baths with epsom salts to relieve sore muscles and congestion, homemde vaporub, air cleaner in the winter..
2. Rosemary - air cleaner, congestion
3. Lemon for homemade cleaners
4. Lavender for air freshener, headaches, relaxing baths with sea salts
5. Tea tree oil for cleaners, disinfection and wounds
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Sacramentals - I want to have some blessed beeswax candles.
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Marilyn, I think I'm a lot like you in terms of living situation (suburbs) and worries about guns (we own some, but they are many miles away in a friend's gun safe, with trigger locks).
My new worry, after this week's smoke alarm scare, is the 60 seconds I have to wake up, put on clothes and shoes, grab up family members and get to safety in case of fire. The Bug Out Box I have would never get out the door in a fire situation. No time to get to it, or to save our two cats. It's scary.
I think, though, there are two kinds of survival kits - the fire or tornado kind (grab and run!) and the we-have-more-time kind (a plan-ahead earthquake prepper, a family ready for a hurricane, a California or Missouri resident who's prepared for a strong earthquake.
Talking about both types of preparation would be very helpful.
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guitarnan wrote:
My new worry, after this week's smoke alarm scare, is the 60 seconds I have to wake up, put on clothes and shoes, grab up family members and get to safety in case of fire. The Bug Out Box I have would never get out the door in a fire situation. No time to get to it, or to save our two cats. It's scary.
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The kids and I were discussing this just today. What to take in a fire. My priorities were kids and paperwork and then photos and laptop. We have one of those fire ladders for our bedroom - but I have no idea how to use it and I am scared of heights. I have a real fear of fire...
Do you remember the Derecho a couple of years ago? 4 days no power in 100+ degrees. City water was compromised too. Dh ended up bbqing the contents of our freezer. For some reason many of the neighbors (the elderly, alone and reclusive)ended up hanging out and eating at our house. I had some preps - but no way near enough water and no way to deal with the incredible heat. Also no smartphone - so communication was difficult with my pay for each minute phone. Our roads looked like a battle zone - trees and branches and wires down everywhere.
I WANT to plan and prepare more - but it seems a daunting task and a full time job....
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First of all, there's ALWAYS something more you can do.. so don't worry about that. Just pick the one thing you want to get done next.
Well, now, firearms. Might as well jump in the deep end.  I'm around some people who like guns (actually friends with the owners of the local gun shop) and those people are in general the most level-headed people. Preppers have guns because looters will kill you to take what you have.. no matter how much or how little it is.. even if you're willing to walk away from it, they won't wait to see if you're gonna share. You certainly don't have to have them. But self-defense is certainly allowed by Catholic doctrine. And I'm pretty sure that most preppers aren't talking about shooting people who come to ask for help. Matter of fact I know some that talk about having packets to hand out to people to help them so that 1)it's easy to help and 2) they don't show everything they have (no point in tempting people into lawlessness).
Some preppers are also concerned with a wholesale downslide into lawlessness/anarchy/fall of society so that people would have to take the law into their own hands or simply be victims of those that run wild. And you can't tell me that if there's a breakdown in law enforcement that it won't happen. We've seen it. But if you're thinking on a much larger scale than something like a storm or earthquake.. then you have to take it into consideration..
And in addition to that, people may be looking at hunting for food and personal protection in wilderness areas so guns again.. and if you can't run to the store for more ammunition well then that becomes a big deal. And then you add on top of that the general leaning of the government in restricting away the 2nd Amendment and people are not only worried about needing guns but that they'll be denied the ability to acquire guns if they don't do it now.
But the vast majority even if they're looking at those types of situations are looking at it from a defensive side.. not to be the aggressors. I'd be more worried about the people who won't be bothered to prepare for any level of emergency and say stupid stuff like "if there's
___________ we'll just go and help ourselves to *group of people*'s stuff". They say it as a joke but if something did happen, I bet it'll occur to them for real.
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So how to prep when you're not on a secluded working homestead to start with..
First figure out what it is you have to worry about. Earthquake prep is gonna be a bit different than Hurricane's which is a bit different than Tornado's which is a bit different than Wildfire. Know YOUR danger's and the risk of that danger (even if it's just a most likely to least likely list).
Then decide if you're likely to need to leave your home. If you're in a city and rioting is highly likely to break out, if you may run into issues with being able to evacuate.. well you need to decide what you're going to do.
You can plan to stay in place. Store food and water. Figure out a protection plan: work out ways to lock down and stay well hidden or get a firearm and training in it or self defense without weapons or whatever it is that works for you.
You can plan to "bug out". Have bags that you can grab and try and get in the first wave out of there.. plan backpacks and foot routes if you get stuck and decide that waiting on traffic is a bad idea. You may still want self-defense of some kind.
But while I might store canned goods to stay at home, if I'm backpacking it better be dehydrated food and some good water filters and a route that hits water sources (google earth and check out pools and ponds and the like) because I'm not carrying canned goods and tons of water on my back
So by necessity the amounts you prep for will be determined by what risk you're looking at and what your plan to deal with it entails.
So generally they'll say the first thing you want is a 72 hr kit. This is something that you can pick up and walk out of the house with. It has a change of clothes and decent walking shoes. A bag you can carry if you need to walk some distance. Some food and some water. You may not be able to grab it if your house is on fire. But you should be able to grab it for most evacuation orders. I'm still working on that.. I haven't figured out how to have enough extra stuff for 12 people and somewhere to store it to make this happen. Luckily we have very few things that would need the fastest evacuation times.
For your household items. Don't think of it as needing to store so much more.. You have some canned soup on the shelf? well get a few extras from what you're doing now. Maybe an under bed box.. have some extra of whatever you might use up fast.. extra rice and beans are nice because they store well and long.
Best thing about having more food in the pantry though imo is something that will help you out EVERY DAY not just when something bad happens. Most of the food on my shelves was bought on sale (or at the best price for that item) I don't wait until I'm out of mayo and then go to the store and buy it regardless if it's on sale. I have a couple in my pantry. When I pull the last one from my pantry it goes on my shopping list.. because I have until the just opened one is gone to find it on sale. And then you multiply that by every food item that you can store. And once I've built up my pantry by buying more items.. I'm saving money every month on our grocery bill. And well if something happens then I also have enough food in the house for at least a few weeks without even trying.
Where to store stuff.. behind the couch, under the beds, in the dark corners of the closet you can't get into easily anyway. Is there a crawl space under your house??
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Jodie - thanks for all the information. Just to clarify - I am not against weapons for self-defense and hunting. (in fact my boys have won essay contests defending the 2nd amendment) It is just something that concerns me - esp. living in liberal suburbs where my boys cannot even play outside with toy guns  Duck Dynasty is one of their favorite shows and they would love to move out and have a lot of land. Maybe my uneasiness is because I don't want to contemplate needing one. Articles likethis one really really scare me. Esp. now we live in a country where entitlement is the order of the day - and looking at all the recent riots etc, people do thing they have the right to take what they want.
Thanks for your tips too. We do have a plan (baby steps started years ago) but sometimes I feel it is inadequate if one thinks of every emergency.
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Last year my older boys made me watch Great American Blackout. Rather scary but almost ridiculous how much people are totally unprepared. (eg the guy who did not know how to open a can without a can opener)
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It is overwhelming, Marilyn, and I honestly won't click on your article because I just can't handle the anxiety it entails.
It is such a hard balance to strike. Jesus tells us to consider the lily not to worry about tomorrow. But we know that doesn't mean we should never be prudent and plan for our future. However, I do think it means we should strive not to feel anxious about it.
I have to say that all the prepping stuff has to be way more overwhelming when you have more children than average, and especially when the children are young. Adding one more person is not insignificant when considering the cost and amount of space stuff takes up and the system needed to ensure it all gets rotated through. The ready made kits full of dehydrated food you would not eat except in emergency starts to look so ideal until you weigh the cost of buying that or other needs you see right in front of you!
Years ago, before I gave up talk radio altogether in an effort to guard my joy, I used to listen to Glen Beck, and being Mormon, he was very into having a hefty stockpile. It used to stress me out! I did get into the habit of buying my dried beans, rice, and popcorn in bulk, but I do let myself run out before rebuying 
Anyway, this is definitely something that is always on my "list" but I find it difficult to be motivated to do when there are always other more present things I want to spend my time and energy on.
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Haven't read all the posts yet, but a few things that come to mind are extra toilet paper, bottled water, flashlights, candles & matches, a prayer book or printed prayers, blessed salt and holy water. In fact prayers and sacramentals would be at the top of my list.
While we own guns and keep some ammo on hand, I also struggle with what our response would be in tumultuous times. I weigh heavily in the direction of being willing to sacrifice my own life rather than take the life of another, but don't know how I would respond when it comes to protecting those I love. That's where intense prayer is so very necessary. Of course being able to hunt is another good reason for being armed.
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Well there are less lethal options.. personal tasers, pepper spray. I think I'd still want the option but there's no reason not to have the less lethal option.. and some very good reasons to have it. You'll be better off if you have something you won't hesitate to use.
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My spouse is ex-military & very prepared on his end (guns/ammo) while I do the food/household items.
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You know I think specialization is a great thing. Not to the exclusion of knowing some about everything.. but you can't develop good skills if you're spread to thin. I'd much rather have 1 person good at hunting than 6 who know a bit about it. I'll eat better
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