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I wannaknow if any of you readers have made a decision to stop drinking milk..and why? What have you discovered since doing this? Any major changes to your body?
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I stopped drinking pasteurized, homogenized milk. My body hated it..
I now drink raw (fresh) milk from a cow I know that has a name and is out eating grass in the sunshine. I can't get enough of this..my body loves it and I have been doing wonderfully on it during my whole pregnancy. It is one food that my body can tolerate very well..which is saying something. My skin is clearer among other things.
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We removed dairy from our diets entirely a week ago. Both of my littles had dairy sensitivities as nurslings. Now one has chronic constipation and the other has reflux (did from dairy as an infant) and swollen glands from an unidentified allergy. Praying that dairy is it as we've tried other things to no avail. Our only immediate results have been some relief for dd's constipation though it's really only been 7 days..
May I ask your ? right back at you? What has you thinking of this?
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I gave up milk when I was nursing ds as he was allergic. I lost A LOT of weight. It also included all milk proteins--so cheeses, ice creams, crackers and cookies, you get the picture. That is about all I remember happening. He, however, remained quite chubby--good old mama milk. He seems fine now and drinks milk and eats dairy without issues--that I know of.
Dd is now off milk/dairy/eggs. She is cranky, always seems hungry. I am struggling with her. She is 7 so the nursing thing isn't happening 
I recently started giving her a protein shake each day. Seems to help a little. I can't seem to get her filled up. Not a big meat eater, either. She will see the pediatrician in a few weeks and that is one of the many things on my list to discuss with him--poor guy
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Heatonsmom, Anne and Donna,
Thank you for your reply! Very interesting!!
Heatonsmom, the reason I'm asking is I just finished a "cleanse"..you know, detox? And I eliminated both dairy and meat for 3 days. Oh my goodness, my memory became excellent! I was alert, didn't go hungry, even lost a few pounds (bonus!)
I was pleasantly surprised by the whole experience! Considering I'm either pregnant or nursing, I was happy to have found a safe body cleanse using whole foods right from the grocery store!
And the more I talk to people about dairy, the more I'm finding that there are others who have cut dairy from their diet.
My mom recently told me I was allergic to milk as a baby, and I would like to experiment with a calcium supplement (found one with vit d and magnesium) to see if my memory has the same effect, and how else it affects my body.
So I wanted to hear from you's ~ and learn from your experience 
I highly recommend this book, as it is safe for pregnant and/or nursing Moms as well as those who are not. The author Lisa Bryne is more than happy to answer your questions! For anybody interested, here is where I found the ebook ~ it's $14.95 BTW
http://www.wellgroundedlife.com/cleansing-e-book/
And I can't wait to do another! Planning on doing one each season, so I can take advantage of the season's delicious produce
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18 years ago (newly married) we cut dairy from our diet, actually we went dairy, meat and sugar free for the next nine years. I was no longer plagued by eczema and hay fever. Interestingly other health issues of life that I didn't even recognise as issues also disappeared. (That cryptic sentence means, you don't realise how sick you are till you aren't.)
When we did return to dairy my body could cope with a certain amount. You are inspiring me you know to re-look again at this, I have a couple of children who would be better off dairy and sugar.
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When we eliminated dairy the dark circles under my ds's eyes went away, the toddler's cradle cap went away, my oldest ds quit clearing his throat all the time and my dd's ear wax problem went away.
The most significant change was that my ds was able to go off of all three of his asthma meds and he's never returned to them.
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Erin and Becky, does this mean you eliminated ALL dairy? Meaning no milk, cottage cheese, yogurt, etc? Anything with milk in it, or simply milk?
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And Donna Marie, what's the cows name?
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Nique,
for my ds we had to eliminate all milk. It was difficult at first. Milk is in so many things! Now that we have been off of it for awhile and occasional slip (like birthday cake and icecream) doesn't bother him at all.
We are more relaxed about it now but if we relax too much, the old problems start coming back.
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Our allergies decrease dramatically when we go dairy free. My oldest has a lot of acne and I have some too. When we go dairy free the acne decreases for him and goes away for me.
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Nique wrote:
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Simply, yes. Although we now have dairy milk and cheese. We rarely have ice-cream and never have cottage cheese, yogurt etc.
Janette
I'm fascinated about the dairy/acne result.
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Yes, me too. I'd love to hear more....
I have a teen who is developing quite bad acne. She has an oily scalp and switching to a shampoo for oily hair seems to have helped a little but the acne is still quite bad. I never thought of dairy as the culprit!
We get cold sore type sores from gluten....so maybe diary is an issue for her. When she was little she had an intolerance we assumed she had grown out of. (Since she no longer got eczema from drinking milk)
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Side note: I have read that all adult acne is caused by food allergies.
My son's skin is rather oily and so is mine. Growing up I assumed my acne was related to sugar (I love sweets but we ate tons of dairy too). We discovered the milk connection when we had the flu a few of years ago and all quit eating dairy products since they are mucus producing. By the time we were well we were acne free too and the only change in diet was the dairy. Since then I have verified the connection several times, though doctors look at me like I don't know what I'm talking about. 
Belle, I had terrible colic as a baby but my mother never figured out why. Two of my sons had the same problem which went away when I got completely off of dairy. The doctor said it was an intolerance to the protein in milk. We all outgrew the problem but once the teen years hit my son and I had acne. I'm betting the same will happen with my 9yo in a few years. My brothers and son who didn't have a milk protein intolerance haven't had acne. The problem is that milk (milk protein) is in so many things that it's hard to completely eliminate.
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I will admit I have been focusing more on a hormonal reason for it....but then you suggested milk and a lightbulb kind of went off.
I have five sisters. Three of us have endometriosis, two of them have Polycystic Ovaries and the other is blessed to have no menstrual issues at all. My two sisters with Poly also have issues with acne. (The rest of us very rarely get pimples at all) Dd is also very hairy for a 14 year old girl. The poor pet has a rather thick moustache and very thick bushy eyebrows. Granted both her Dad and I are hairy people (I call myself a hobbit!) but hers is much more pronounced. And my Poly sisters have issues with facial hair.
So I'll definitely keep the hormonal thing in mind but thanks to you I have another avenue to explore before I whisk her off to doctors for poking and prodding.
We're quite used to experimenting with diet here so it shouldn't be too hard to figure out if milk is the culprit. We don't actually drink a lot of milk here anyway as one of my dc's is an asthmatic and the fat in milk is what triggers the asthma attacks. But we do eat a lot of food that contains dairy in it's various forms.
Do you find that there is a certain limit your body can handle before breaking out?
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My youngest 3 have all been allergic to dairy at birth. Cecilia (5) and Rita (6) can consume all dairy products without a problem. Ana (5) does not consume dairy products due to her EE.
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Belle, yes, I do find that I can get away with having some dairy without breaking out. If I it on occasion I am fine, but if I eat dairy every day in some form, after a few days I'll notice some breakouts. When I breakout, it's not usually just pimples but large "cysts" that never form a head and take many weeks to go away. Often I have to lance them or they just sit.
My boys have all been tall for their ages but they weren't big at birth. The older two hit puberty earlier than many friends. I have wondered if it could be related to the hormones in milk because we all drank lots of milk and lived on yogurt, cheese and ice cream. I don't know if that connection is possible.
Totally unrelated but an unsettling side note: We live in a college town and I was recently told that a specialist (can't remember what kind) tested the water here and said it had way to many female hormones in it. The reason given was that many of the college students are on the pill and the hormones it contains are not completely filtered out of by the city waste water treatment. So if we drink tap water we get those hormones. Someone suggested that it might contribute to early puberty in young girls.
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Oh my! That is unsettling. That's kind of the reason I have yet to take Dd to the doctor. I know that's how they treated my sisters, with the pill. At 14.5, my Dd looks 10. She's small and petite and I mean petite. She's only had two periods so far, so we are watching them and waiting for them to settle so we can try to discern if there is come kind of pattern that may help give us a clue as to whether hormones are her problem or not.
Thankfully she's not a big milk drinker or cheese eater....I'm not big on either. I do love fresh parmesan and ricotta and feta cheeses but I don't really like the other types of cheese too much, makes me feel sick when I eat them. (But I don't get pimples!) Her biggest problem is like her Mumma she's a big tea drinker. She loves a hot cup of tea at least four times a day! And she does have hers milkier than I think she should.... (I like strong tea with a dash of milk, neither of us have sugar)
I'm glad to hear it's not a 'nothing at all' type thing.
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Sounds like milk might not be her issue but I do hope that you figure it out. If it's diet related she needs to be off of that food for at least two weeks to get it out of her system.
My acne has cycle related connections too. There's more than one cause and my body can handle a little of each but it gets bad when they all gang up together.
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cathhomeschool wrote:
Totally unrelated but an unsettling side note: We live in a college town and I was recently told that a specialist (can't remember what kind) tested the water here and said it had way to many female hormones in it. The reason given was that many of the college students are on the pill and the hormones it contains are not completely filtered out of by the city waste water treatment. So if we drink tap water we get those hormones. Someone suggested that it might contribute to early puberty in young girls. |
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Actally, the water treatment plants don't remove any of the estrogens that commonly end up in our water, so all of us are getting large amounts of them everyday. No water filters or even reverse osmosis systems remove them either, from what I've read. Between those, and the plastics leaching estrogen-like chemicals into the waterways and groundwater, we and esp our children, are being exposed to large amounts of estrogen whether we like it or not. The average sp**m count of 18-25 year old men is half what it was one generation ago.
Back to the milk (to get back on topic) many of the bad things attributed to dairy are supposed to not be a problem with raw milk. Pasteurization and homogenization both destroy and change parts of milk that are normally healthful, into inflammatory compounds. I have been drinking raw milk now for about 6 mos and my asthma is definitely better, but I've also been getting allergy injections so I can't say if it's that. But my digestion is definitely much better with raw milk than with pasteurized. I'm lucky to have a source not too far from me.
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