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Posted: June 22 2009 at 11:08pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

I haven't had much success trying to research this on the internet, so I came to the wisest group of women I know.

Have any of you experienced your periods getting really short, with only a day or two of heaviness? The last couple of months this has been my experience and I don't know what to make of it. I have intense ovarian pain, I am assuming a cyst, and then start heavily but it is done in about three days. Should I be worried? All I find on the internet is talk of "irregular" periods without any description of what that means.

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Posted: June 23 2009 at 7:11am | IP Logged Quote PDyer

My GYN and I were just discussing "woman in her mid-40s" cycles yesterday, and he suggested 10 days of consecutive bleeding as a baseline before considering steps to figure out what is going on.

I think the primary concern is loooong periods of bleeding at our age, but I'd put in a call if you're concerned.



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Posted: June 23 2009 at 10:33am | IP Logged Quote amyable

I'm 40, and since our last baby, my periods have been exactly like you describe. Two days *heavy*, and then practically done! Sometimes a third day is moderate. My cycles are also a little shorter than their normal "short" of 25/26 days, but that could also be due to nursing...

I've never talked to a gyn about it, so I have no advice, just that you are not alone.

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Posted: June 23 2009 at 11:17am | IP Logged Quote JennGM

I'm in the same boat. Extreme ovarian pain, very short cycles, but much heavier than before. Never asked my OB...I'm just greatful for them being short.

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Posted: June 23 2009 at 11:56am | IP Logged Quote Willa

My guess is perimenopause.   Its onset is often several years before the actual change and you can still be fertile during those years, but it heralds the changes that can come with menopause.

Also, if you're nursing still your cycles may still be somewhat atypical. When I was still nursing Paddy (in my early 40's) I had very light cycles and even after weaning they never really became typical to my earlier years.

Danger signals, from what I read online, are spotting between cycles, heavy prolonged bleeding, or severe pain or other types of debilitation (extreme fatigue, extreme moodiness, chronic insomnia etc).

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Posted: June 23 2009 at 10:11pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

Hmmm... it's good to know I am not alone. I was wondering if it was a perimenopause thing. I am still nursing on demand, a lot at night and several times a day. I will be 40 this year.

The thing that really threw me off this month was that my period came early, and then was really short which made me wonder if it was even actually my cycle or something else like a cyst that had ruptured. I am too forgetful to take my temperature daily to help keep track of what's going on.

I agree, Jen, short is good.

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Posted: July 14 2009 at 8:49pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

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I'm in the same boat. Extreme ovarian pain, very short cycles, but much heavier than before. Never asked my OB...I'm just greatful for them being short.


Jennifer, have you noted whether the ovarian pain switches sides month to month? I am wondering because the pain I get is always on the right side. Does this mean that my left ovary isn't functioning or that my right ovary has something wrong with it? Anyone know?

Since I am searching for information, anyone have a trusted site that they go to for this type of information? All the sites I have found have very generic information.

Can you tell I am really trying to avoid going in to my OB?

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:30pm | IP Logged Quote JenPre

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Jennifer, have you noted whether the ovarian pain switches sides month to month? I am wondering because the pain I get is always on the right side. Does this mean that my left ovary isn't functioning or that my right ovary has something wrong with it? Anyone know?


My GYN once told me that the ovary we ovulate with "switches" each month. I too get sometimes terrible ovarian pain on my right side when I'm ovulating from that side, but never pain on my left side.

My dr. never seemed worried about the pain and it's never unbearable. Just a "symptom" of the cycle. So i wouldn't say that your left ovary isn't working just that it's not painful.

I haven't got any information though about if something could be wrong with your right side. Is the pain unbearable? Or just "there" and is a nuisance? Ever since I got pregnant and stopped ovulating I haven't had the pain (obviously) so I'm assuming that mine was just a tender ovary on the right side for some reason.

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 2:07pm | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

Actually, your ovaries are in a race against each other.. the follicle that matures the fastest is the one that is released.. for some women that can mean alternating sides for others it can mean the one side is only occationally releasing an egg.. and for others that one side is never the one releasing the egg

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 2:09pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

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I'm in the same boat. Extreme ovarian pain, very short cycles, but much heavier than before. Never asked my OB...I'm just greatful for them being short.


Jennifer, have you noted whether the ovarian pain switches sides month to month? I am wondering because the pain I get is always on the right side. Does this mean that my left ovary isn't functioning or that my right ovary has something wrong with it? Anyone know?


Well, Molly, I asked all sorts of questions in the past. Willa is right, nothing we're talking about it has red flags. We're just getting lower on progesterone. Is your luteal phase shorter?

I hurt on the right side each time. Some of it is caused, I believe, from adhesions. I've had cysts in the past, so I think sometimes I get those. I was told that I am probably alternating; nothing to be alarmed. I even spot at ovulation now, which I never did, and that didn't raise eyebrows either.

I guess I've found that even though it's different for us, it's still in the realm of normal.

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 5:01pm | IP Logged Quote aussieannie

Jenn that is interesting what you say, I have developed pain mid cycle and first day of the cycle since Annuncia's birth and my herbalist says it is adhesions, while I have had a past cesarian and appendix op, I still have trouble thinking it could manifest like that. But my symptoms have some distinctive things about it and she says it is definately adhesions from what I describe. Can you speak a bit more about this?

I'm thinking of seeing a gyn soon as well.

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 5:20pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

Anne,
I had a laparoscopy years ago for right sided pain that my OB said was caused by adhesions from my appendectomy. Unfortunately, the pain continued and I was later diagnosed as having a cyst that formed with each cycle. Your post reminded me of this and I guess this may be happening again.

Jodie, I didn't know that about the ovaries competing, and I am an RN!

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 5:28pm | IP Logged Quote aussieannie

Thanks for that Molly. Would a cyst cause pain in two different times in the cycle? Also last year the pain was there continuously in a very minor way and when I pushed on the area (mine's always left) the pain would radiate over to the right side. I've had two CT scans which showed nothing. The second one the doctor said what my herbalist said initially straight after Annuncia's birth, a strained ligament due to there being nothing in the scan.

Just to make sense of that, after Annuncia's birth a pain developed that whenever my pelvic floor dropped (I was aware of that motion when going to the toilet) the pain would radiate from the pelvis, up the left side and stop just below the ribs. The pain would go up the side and then concentrate at the top. It took weeks to finally settle.

So it finally all settled and then I've noticed this slight cyclic action connected to minor pain start up. In the last few months the pain has increased.

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Posted: July 15 2009 at 8:57pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

Before these last few months, I only had the pain with ovulation. It was the same years ago, from what I remember. At times, it was excruciating. Now, I have it with ovulation and then immediately before my cycle starts. It is sharp, crampy pain that is quite painful but not excruciating. The ovulation pain can last two days, the pre-menstrual pain is very quick, only a couple of hours at the most. During my cycle, it still hurts but more like cramps that have just all settle there instead of radiating across my abdomen like they used to when I was younger.

I just wish I had a really trusted practitioner to go to. I want answers and alternatives, not conventional treatments like the Pill or surgery.

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Posted: July 19 2009 at 11:37pm | IP Logged Quote Syncletica

I searched and found

this and this

I just googled 'how to treat ovarian cysts naturally'. There's plenty more to choose from.
Can someone tell me if this pain you are talking about prior to menopause is something every woman experiences?
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