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Hi Everyone,
I have a question for those of you who have any experience with this. I am expecting my 5th baby in early August, and I think with this one, I would like to be able to have dh or one of my older dc feed her breast milk w/ a bottle from time to time. I have never, ever had success with this in the past. My other dc flatly refused any kind of bottle offered to them. Dc #4 just weaned during this pregnancy, about 3 months ago, after a 4 year nursing relationship. I really am hoping to be able to offer this one an occasional bottle. What has worked for those of you who have done this successfully? Is there one kind of bottle/nipple more readily accepted by breastfed infants, in your experience? Any other things you could share for making this successful this time? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
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The only times I was successful with this was when I started with bottles right away--the first week or so. We used Munchkin and Avent nipples with the twins and Avent with Cecila. I thought Avent were easier to find. I like their sippy cups too.
My kids tend to be easy going, and I was fortunate they did not get nipple confusion. The only thing was if I waited a few months to try to introduce the bottle, they totally rejected it. Good luck! I hope it works out. 
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Avent bottles! We have never had nipple confusion.
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Ditto what Rachel said and we had the best luck with making it a routine thing - every night at the same time with the same person and me no where to be found, lol. I went to bed and dh gave an evening bottle.
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Again, don't wait too long before trying the bottle. I read somewhere that three weeks is a good age to start, and it worked for all of mine - I had to get my older two taking a bottle as I was committed to working one or two evenings a week from when they were a few weeks old, and we never had a problem with it.
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I have a related question (sorry for the sort of hijack).
I had the twins a month ago. They had to have bottles in the hospital. Ok, so now they are home. I've been pumping since day 1, and they are getting probably 90% of their sustenance from that. I cannot, however, seem to get them to nurse. I try, and they'll nurse for a few moments, and then stop completely, with me there in their mouths, look at me, like, hmmm. What IS this. And just sit there. And sit there. And NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE. Nada. Nil. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. At least, til they get hungry and decide that they want to eat, and whatever this THING is, that isn't going to cut it.
Pumping, I'm getting enough for them, so I know I could do it if they would just remain latched on...but does anyone have any advice for getting them OFF the bottles, and ONTO the breast? Bearing in mind that DH is gone, I have no backup whatsoever, and so I cannot simply drop EVERYTHING to try to nurse them each and every time they need to eat....otherwise, I could easily be up all day/night long....
Any advice? Please?
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Rachel, this is so hard and so frustrating. My 9th baby did this (almost 5 years ago)! He would not nurse, but loved his bottles. I hated pumping and so wanted to nurse him like all my other babies. Long story short, I saw a lactation consultant. She told me that he was just being lazy. He knew he could get the milk easier from the bottle than from me, so he wasn't trying hard enough to nurse. Nursing takes a lot more effort on the babies part. She recommended that I start with the bottle for a few seconds and then quickly offer my breast to him so that he would latch on. This took sometime and patience, but it eventually did work. My concern with you is that I was only dealing with this with ONE baby. With two, I am not sure how it will go. It took time and patience. Wish I could offer some better advice. Maybe it would be worth you while to contact a lactation consultant who could come over and offer some advice/help. I will pray for you!
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amyable wrote:
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ditto.
avent nip
started 3-4 weeks post-partum. when I started later than that, it didn't work.
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Rachel,
I don't have advice for getting your twins back on to the breast, but... my babies did the same thing. In my situation, though, I was also suffering from mastitis and was incredibly sore, and I couldn't pump as often as they wanted to eat. They weren't gaining especially well either; one of them was ok, but the other one had problems latching. (It wasn't laziness.) So finally we just went to bottles. I cried for days about this... but after a while I came to understand that it was the best decision I could have made for our family at the time. After starting bottles at 3 weeks, the babies were eating combined over 50 oz of formula a day... so I knew why I had been nursing them 24 hours a day!!! I couldn' nurse them as often as they wanted/needed to be nursed (as sore as I was) and still take care of the rest of my family.
Anyway, just to say... when you have twins, it really is about survival. And since your dh isn't there to help you, you just have to do what you can. Hopefully the nursing will work out for your little guys, though!
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Rachel, I'm a newly retired LLL Leader not far from you (an hour or hour and a half). I know a wonderful Leader and LC in Fayetteville that I'll PM her phone number to you. I'll send you several Leaders' numbers, in fact. Nipple confusion can be difficult for the babies to overcome... they need to learn how to nurse at the breast now.
I wish I could do more... I'm still in that very nauseous stage of pregnancy. I had thought of trying to go see you sometime. Don't hesitate to call me anytime for help or just to talk!
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I used Avent bottles with my first, but I just found out on a nursing board I read that Avent bottles are made of a dangerous plastic that leaches into liquids. That kind of plastic has been banned for food use in many parts of the world.
The current favorite on the nursing board is the Playtex nurser ... little disposable baggies, so no gas bubbles for baby and the plastic is the safe kind.
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i only have 3 kids, 4, 2, & 8 mo. The first 2 were "high need" - wouldn't take bottles - but my youngest has a totally different, easy-going temperament and could care less if it's breast or bottle. My point is, take the infant's temperament into consideration...
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Philothea wrote:
I used Avent bottles with my first, but I just found out on a nursing board I read that Avent bottles are made of a dangerous plastic that leaches into liquids. That kind of plastic has been banned for food use in many parts of the world.
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Do you have any more info on this? This is the type of bottle I have (not that any of my kids will touch a bottle...  )
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I'm interested in the info about the Avent bottles as well.
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Rachel
If you want even more LLL info - pop over to the LLL Boardsand ask on the multiples board. Karen Gromada (author of Mothering Multiples) will ask for you. She is a weath of knowledge.
Angi - also a retired LLL leader
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The harmful substance in question is Bisphenol-A, which leaches out of polycarbonate (a hard, transparent plastic, a.k.a. Lexan). Try these links, also the Feeding Baby board at the Baby Bargains website has a lot of discussion on this.
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_058144437.html
http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20030331/danger-in-plastic-ba by-bottles
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Well, we've had to go to bottle feeding fulltime. They simply will NOT latch on...not to a shield, not to me, not to anything other than a bottle nipple (of course, with those, their horrific latch problems do not matter cause the bottle is not wincing in pain, screaming internally at the thought of letting anyone near me, much less attached at the breast....).
The lactation consultant was of little help. It took her two hands to get one boy on at a time, at all, and then she spent the rest of the time just trying to get their jaws pried apart enough to work on their latch (yes, they were attached to me at the time--let's say that she described their latch as "trying to suck me in like a piece of spaghetti thru the jaws of steel")....they appear to be like alligators and crocodiles--you can keep their mouths shut, no prob. Getting them open is like, well, we need the jaws of life for that. No joke.
So, bottles it is. And the pumping isn't sufficient to provide enough stimulation (even every 2 hrs all day, with Reglan, fenugreek, and alfalfa and what seemed like gallons of water), so my supply isn't building enough sine they won't nurse. I'm pumping some...but not that much anymore. It's really just so exhausting to try and try to keep up, and just NOT. Esp since I don't have help, and have three other dc to take care of...hsing is coming up, we've got trips out of state coming...sigh...
Thanks for the prayers ladies.
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Rachel, I'm sorry the lactation consultant wasn't able to help enough but you tried and that's all you can ask of yourself, truly. I've seen people give up with much less effort than you put forth. I applaud your efforts, especially under the stressful circumstances! 
Take care and I hope to get to meet you one of these days!
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With my youngest dd, I had a blood clot after the delivery. I took shots for 8 weeks in order to nurse her, but then they wanted to switch me to a pill-form of blood thinner, which they said I could nurse while taking. However, the only time dd has ever had a nosebleed in her life was at this time, and our doctor told me to stop bf-ing. I cried and cried and cried. Were the incidents related or coincidental? I have no idea, but I certainly wasn't going to take any chances!
So I had to give her a bottle, eve while I was nursing for the eight weeks, becasue I was quite ill, and sometimes I just needed dh or my mom to do it. And I started with Avent, as the was supposed to be THE bottle to use. But then I tried the playtex ones, and she and I really liked them, and they had the nifty drop in liners, and so we used that instead. If I ever have the opportunity to have a baby in my arms again that I can not nurse, that is what I would probably use.
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Philothea wrote:
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I have been reading this thread, since my baby is 4 weeks and I want to get her to be able to have a bottle on occasion, like time 4tea.
I have read all this stuff about the polycarbonate plastic, so I have bought glass bottles.
However, I was wondering, has anyone heard something about breast milk in glass being bad because the white blood cells? or something with the immunities in it? "leaves" the milk and adheres to the glass??
I'm really vague on details -- i heard this a while ago, from someone who pumped for her baby into plastic for that reason.
Not like the baby would be having a bottle often at all . . . so maybe it wouldn't matter if the antibodies weren't there for once?
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