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I was wondering if there are any Catholic alternatives to the Pilgrim's Progress out there? I see it recommended in so many places, but it is obviously not a Catholic text, so what alternatives are there?
Any suggestions?
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EXPLICITLY, the only anti-Catholic lines talk about the Pope for about 4 sentences, in ONE section of the story. There may have been a small comment in the author's "Apology" (Introduction) as well, I can't remember. (I read the book a few weeks ago, and I don't remember any others)
IMPLICITLY, I don't find most of the theology a problem EXEPT for the Calvinistic view that one has to acknowledge total depravity of the human person. (Pilgrim gets into the Celestial City in the end, but the man, Ignorance, who has traveled with and overcome all the obstacles that PIlgrim does CAN'T get into heaven because he thinks his good works are pleasing to God. I find Ignorance to be a VERY Catholic character!)
I hear here is a Catholic text, but I've googled it and never found one. I hope someone here knows more about a Catholic version than I do, because the plot device is perfect for explaining the Christian life to children in a way that makes sense. There is adventure, friendship, battles, set-backs.... it makes for a great allegory!
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Do you think
King of the Golden City
would work as an alternate?
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No, I don't think King of the Golden City is like Pilgrim's Progress. PP is meant for a much wider age range than King...my dd is reading King on her own in the 5th grade and loves it, but I am not sure it would appeal as much to boys.
I'm interested in alternatives, too. It shows up on a lot of jr. high/high school protestant bible resource lists.
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How about Everyman, the medieval play? It presents a Catholic "worldview" about the Last Things. You may even find someone putting it on or a movie??? That would be my first choice--a lot to think about in it.
In LCC recommend Thomas A Kempis Imitation of Christ as a Catholic alternative to PP.
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I think King is similar to, but more profound than Pilgrims. Both are about a spiritual journey. King can be read on several levels. It works on the lowest level as a read aloud in third or fourth grade. High schoolers and adults can read it too as it relates to mystical theology, the dark night of the soul, interior castle, etc.
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Not Catholic, but C.S. Lewis has a book called Pilgrim's Regress.
I think at some point Bunyan's work should be read, with reservations, of course. I read "Little Women" so many times but didn't understand the references until I finally read PP as a teenager.
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Pilgrim's Regress is an allegory about modern philosphy and culture. It would not be equivalent.
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CKwasniewski wrote:
How about Everyman, the medieval play? It presents a Catholic "worldview" about the Last Things. You may even find someone putting it on or a movie??? That would be my first choice--a lot to think about in it.
In LCC recommend Thomas A Kempis Imitation of Christ as a Catholic alternative to PP.
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ck, I keep meaning to ask you what LCC is???
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Latin Centered Curriculum-- sorry, I should have written it out!
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Thank you!
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CKwasniewski wrote:
Pilgrim's Regress is an allegory about modern philosphy and culture. It would not be equivalent.
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But it's sooo good. Not for kids, though, really, since it has adult themes. BTW, reviewers of the book declared it was evidence that Lewis had finally become Catholic . It has a very Catholic flavor, and is one of the books I recommend to all my friends.
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We have a book called "Dangerous Journey" which is more an illustrated version, very nicely done.
We also have a book called "Little Pilgrim's Progress" by Helen Taylor, which was my son's favorite book the year he was 7.
I am not a Catholic so cannot speak from that perspective, but it seems like as a general allegory for faith, PP would be good for anyone. Allegory in general can be a little "heavy", you cannot necessarily apply everything straight across, you have to think/talk about it and apply it to yourself. So maybe as long as you were ok with doing that "interpreting" step for your family--?
I know Charlotte Mason strongly recommended this to be read to the children in the original version, and had all her students read it.
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