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Posted: Feb 19 2007 at 11:10am | IP Logged
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Has anyone seen this article? Dh sent it to me this morning...
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I saw it last night. Fascinating...but look what it has taken.
I just finished Mere Christianity, and it seems that Lewis' comments on the fruits of modernity are playing out.
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Very interesting....
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Joanna Bogle has an interesting commentary on this.
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I haven't read this yet, but it is a response to the Times article. I found the link in the comments section of the original article. I guess I don't find it surprising that some Anglicans would want to come back to the church especially considering the big issues we read about all the time, but, as Elizabeth's blog reference mentions, how many would there be who would be willing to reunify? Would it be Anglicans as a church or just orthodox parts (parishes? diocese?) of the church? What makes it reunification rather than a mass conversion?
For example, if there were an official reunification, who decides, and who do they represent? All Anglicans? The Anglicans don't have centralized leadership do they? Or do they? What happens to those who don't want to reunite? Will they still be Anglican? I'm realizing I know less about the Anglican church than I realized.
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Rachel May wrote:
For example, if there were an official reunification, who decides, and who do they represent? All Anglicans? The Anglicans don't have centralized leadership do they? Or do they? What happens to those who don't want to reunite? Will they still be Anglican? I'm realizing I know less about the Anglican church than I realized. |
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As a former Anglican I can say these are questions even Anglicans don't know the answer to. Reunification "talks" have occured from time to time for years but because Anglicanism is such a broad theological tent, it would be really hard for the entire group to reunify. The Anglican priests that I know want reunification with Rome on their terms - with their orders acknowledged as being valid and with Rome recognizing Anglicanism as a valid "branch" of Christ's church. I just can't see this happening. What's more likely is that individual anglicans will see the need to be reunified and make that choice for themselves.
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Here's the Vatican's response to the Times article:
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REPLY TO "TIMES" ARTICLE ON CATHOLIC-ANGLICAN RELATIONS
VATICAN CITY, FEB 20, 2007 (VIS) - Made public today was a note signed by Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby and Anglican Bishop David Beetge, co-presidents of the International Anglican-Roman Catholic Commission for Unity and Mission (IARCCUM), regarding an article published yesterday in the British newspaper "The Times" on the IARCCUM document: "Growing Together in Unity and Mission."
"'Growing Together in Unity and Mission' has not yet been officially published," the English-language note reads. "It is unfortunate that is contents have been prematurely reported in a way which misrepresents its intentions and sensationalizes its conclusions. The first part of the document, which treats doctrinal matters, is an attempt to synthesize the work of the Anglican-Roman Catholic International Commission (ARCIC) over the past 35 years. It identifies the level of agreement which has been reached by ARCIC, but is also very clear in identifying ongoing areas of disagreement, and in raising questions which still need to be addressed in dialogue. Those ongoing questions and areas of disagreement are highlighted in boxed sections interspersed throughout the text. It is a very honest document assessing the state of Anglican-Roman Catholic relations at the present moment."
The note continues: "The Times article speculates about the Catholic Church's response to a possible schism within the Anglican Communion. It should be pointed out that the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity has consistently spoken of the value of the Anglican Communion remaining a communion, rooted in the Apostolic faith, as indicated in this statement from 2004: 'It is our overwhelming desire that the Anglican Communion stays together, rooted in the historic faith which our dialogue and relations over four decades have led us to believe that we share to a large degree'."
.../IARCCUM/BATHERSBY:BEETGE &n bsp; &n bsp; &n bsp; &n bsp; VIS 070220 (300
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It's certainly not a cut-and-dried issue. Isn't there an Anglican Rite (Anglican Use?) in our Church, which is made up almost entirely of converts from the Anglican church?
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