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MaryM mentioned a week or so ago that the Polish (ever the front runners in history -- who saved Vienna????) celebrate Fat Thursday (the Thursday before Ash Wed, which would be today) -- Mary M. how would one go about doing that? I'd love to do something tonight with the kids to remind them that they are a bit Polish!
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One word: Paczki. 
But Mary will be more informative.
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JennGM wrote:
One word: Paczki.
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OK, Jenn, so you get me on this rabbit trail and I google "Paczki" and pull up All About Polish Paczki which tells me not only how to pronounce the word, but lots of good info on the jelly doughnut! Here's the recipe that is linked from this page!
OK, now we've got dessert -- do we need dinner?
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Pierogies, kielbasa, and cabbage?
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Yes, but Elizabeth, do we NEED to have dinner? 
I was thinking of German potato salad and kielbasa (even tho we just had hotdogs last night.....)
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Mary G wrote:
| MaryM mentioned a week or so ago that the Polish (ever the front runners in history -- who saved Vienna????) celebrate Fat Thursday (the Thursday before Ash Wed, which would be today) -- Mary M. how would one go about doing that? |
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Way to put me on the spot when I am totally clueless! Honestly I couldn't have mentioned this to you since this is the first I've heard of the custom (bad Pole that I must be  ). I wonder who you talked to since it wasn't me. Sheepishly steping back in hopes that Jenn will come forward. Though she isn't Polish she does know tons about their religious celebrations and has lots of resources. Most of my Polish resources relate only to Advent and Christmas customs. Sorry.
And yes, we do know paczkis!
So just a google search - sounds like any gluttonous eating of sweet cakes and doughnuts all day will fulfill the custom!
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OK, I'm really losing it -- I know SOMEONE mentioned it -- either here on a blog as I had never heard of it either till I read it somewhere!
Let's just open it up to all -- does ANYONE know anything about Fat Thursday? In Polish, it's called Tlusty Czwartek
I'll Google but I know I head it somewhere ......
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OK, so here's what I've got so far -- seems you just eat Paczki (pronounced punch-key) all day ... sounds good to me.
Here's a site that gives some details including a link to Paczki pals which are kinda cute!
Here are some more recipes for jelly donuts, Polish-style!
Smacznego!
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Mary, I did have a quick post about Carnival foods that I found in PA, including the paczki. That was the first I had heard about Fat Thursday, too.
I haven't found anything else but Paczki (and Chruscik in some places.) This is my favorite site for Polish customs.
I'd like to think of the Fat Tuesday and Fat Thursday with foods with a combo of sausages (Italian and Polish), doughnuts/fastnachts/Paczki/beignets, French Toast, pancakes, and King Cake. Fried foods and meats to clean out the larder.
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Oops, Mary G.! I posted before I saw your post. We have the same link!
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Mary,
Have some Polish sausage with your doughnuts and call it good. Sounds like "dinner" to me .
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My grocery store in Northern Virginia had special Paczki and King Cake this week, which gets me all thrilled!
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All you are getting me hungry...we have packzi in the stores also, so I'm with Elizabeth sounds like a fine dinner to me
Question for all you food experts.....I don't understand when it is traditional to have King cake, I do it for Fat Tuesday, but why do others do it for Ephiphany? Is it the "king" theme, or is there a certain ethnic tradition?
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molly wrote:
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The Southern Louisana folks might be able to answer better, but here's what I learned.
For Epiphany many countries have a special bread or cake for this feast, Rosca de los Reyes, Galette (or Gateau) des Roi (or Rois), Twelfth Cake are some examples.
In Southern Louisiana there is a King Cake that is served all through the Carnival season, which starts at Epiphany, but reaches it's climax at Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday. So for us, we serve King Cakes on Epiphany and before Fat Tuesday.
Perhaps I have it incorrect...but it makes sense in my fuddled brain.
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Oh, here are some links that support my 6 week of Carnival and King Cakes theory.
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Thank you all! I was just thinking this morning that I needed to Google "Polish traditions for Lent"!
I'm Polish, and we have incorporated some of the customs into our Advent/Christmas celebrations, but so far I know very little about Lent/Easter (except the beautiful eggs, of course).
I don't think we'll be doing the jelly donut thing this week, though! We still have cake left over from St. Valentine's. But, there's always next week...
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I was figuring on doing sauerbraten and potato pancakes for dinner Tuesday
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I copied this from one of Mary's links:
"In United States Polonia, Paczki Day takes place the Tuesday before Ash Wednesday, traditionally called Fat Tuesday in Carnival. Polish American bakeries also supply Paczki in the hundreds of thousands that day. Often in American Polonia, Paczki Day is celebrated with polka dances. In Roman Catholic grammar schools throughout American Polonia, children enjoy Paczki at school on that day."
Here in the Detroit area, the "Fat Tuesday" is very big (I had never heard of the Fat Thursday- Thanks for this info, Mary!)
Orders have been placed at my 16yods's high school for paczki (and other area Catholic schools.) Personally, my dss don't care for them! They are like a much sweeter and greasier jelly doughnut. That said, it is a huge deal around here. All the news stations show the preparations for the paczki, and the
best places to buy them. I would hazard a guess that most of the people they show in lines aren't Polish. 
DH is, ethnically, 100% Polish. I don't think I have a drop! We do have a large Polish population, in the area, though. Lots of Buscia's and Dziadzia's (sp?!?) running around here.
It is the time to get rid of the sweets and butter in the cupboards, in preparation for Lent. I think Jenn covered that. Also a time for cleaning and clearing out excess in the house.
I am glad you brought this up- I had a free dinner slot for Saturday, and we will be having kielbasa! (Most of our Friday dinners are pierogi, year round.  )
God Bless,
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We have a wonderful Polish Village in our city with a beautiful little church, St. Adalberts. (My favorite place to pray, it's so beautiful and serene) Each year they have a HUGE paczki sale, it's a big deal all around the city. They use the $ to proceed the neighborhood. (unfortunetly it's now considered 'inner city' we used to live there, long story, it was a real love/hate deal, so rich in traditions, and infested with drugs and gangs) So we trek up there each year and buy a buncha paczki, and we have keilbasa and potatoes for dinner, paczki for dessert. I loved it one year when I helped with the making of the paczki, those old ladies gaurded that recipe with a vengence. Not a good way to carry the tradition on....
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Just to put closure to this -- the Paczki were a BIG hit with one and all (and they were a lot of fun to make with the littles -- we call it "cooking math" and it's one of their favorite classes! )
We had kielbasa, German potato salad, green salad and paczki -- a great time was had by all. Don't you just love living the liturgical year? Especially since I'm a mix of ethnicities -- Polish, French Basque, Irish, Slavic -- and then my dh is basically British Isles, we have LOTS of fun even before Lent!
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