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Cay Gibson
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Can you all tell it's my day for taking care of CM business.  
When I began answering this possible book selection, I couldn't help but get brought back to the matter at hand.
Even in the first Mosaic volume there are books that aer not strictly "Catholic". We even included fairy tales!!! But there are Catholics who want (expect) the Catholic Mosaic to be what it's called... Catholic .
Due to concerns that arise, ---such as in this thread ---it has been addressed whether if the Mosaic books should be kept strictly "Catholic" books.
Where do we go with these other books (such as Bagels from Benny that are not strictly Catholic but have such an overflowing Christian message within them and/or (as in the case of Eve Buntings' One Candle ) a powerful historical message as well?
If any of you have read One Candle by Eve Bunting (illustrated by the same artist of Sister Anne ) then you will know what I mean.
Perhaps that's where FIAR comes into play. Perhaps the role of Catholic Mosaic and Hillside Publishing is to stay strictly Catholic.
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Cay Gibson wrote:
| Where do we go with these other books (such as Bagels from Benny that are not strictly Catholic but have such an overflowing Christian message within them. . . |
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I know what you mean by "strictly" Catholic (at least I am assuming I do knowing you) but any book that has an overall Christian message as long as it is not contrary to the Faith would indeed be Catholic. I know you know that Cay but I say it because it's an important point. We read literature for many reasons and one is to help form our children's worldview. A worldview that should be fully Christian - which is the same as being Catholic.
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That would be your decision but I'll be honest and say I don't think it necessary and really doesn't mesh with the Cay I know as someone who embraces te fullness of Truth wherever it may be found.
Just my opinion. 
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Cay
I haven't read either of those books but I'd love to study and relate to my dc the Catholic messages they contain.
I think of the Church's practice of consecrating all things true and good whether they are originally Catholic or not. Halloween is timely example that comes to mind.
I think it's a good thing to start searching for Truth even in the young child's picture book!
So if you want to claim Bagles for Benny as Good, True an Beautiful (and therefore Catholic)...cool 
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Cay Gibson wrote:
Where do we go with these other books (such as Bagels from Benny that are not strictly Catholic but have such an overflowing Christian message within them and/or (as in the case of Eve Buntings' One Candle ) a powerful historical message as well?
Perhaps the role of Catholic Mosaic and Hillside Publishing is to stay strictly Catholic. |
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Well here's my perspective, of which I fully expect others may not share...
I would personally prefer (and be more likely to purchase) the strictly Catholic catagory for several reasons.
1. There is TONS of secular/prot materials available for me to weed though. I don't need or want more.
2. Trust. It's a great and rare pleasure to be able to say, "I trust this provider would never recommend something that isn't entirely Catholic." I appreciate not having the extra work of editing or explaining those materials. Yes, we do and should discuss how and why people think different ways. However, I feel with little ones we must be very carefull lest we lay a foundation for relativism - the "all paths lead to heaven" line of thinking that leads many faithfull away later in life. 
3. I believe the "roots" of my children's education should be catholic. For many, it is a matter of how they use the material. If I'm using CM to help form a faith foundation, I consider faith a "root" and want it strictly Catholic. If I'm using it like a suppliment to social studies or science or art (which is what I use FIAR as), then I might be more lenient in my requirements.
4. It's a personal preference to place great catholic materials before my children at every opportunity. It's also a simple issue of priorities and limited funds. If given the choice between purchasing a fully Catholic item or a mixed bag item - it's very rare for me to buy the mixed bag.
I do want to say I love my Catholic Mosaic. We're doing Angel in the Waters this week and will be helping at Madonna House either later this week or early next week.
We are also meditating (as best one can with these kids!) on the pregnancy and birth of Jesus. I've been reading the beginning of Divine Mysteries of the Most Holy Rosary (taken from City of God by Agreda) in short sections to the kids. I have to highly edit as I go because they don't understand every other word, but otherwise it's a very visual and highly detailed accounting.
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Interesting the timing of this thread for me.
Catholic Mosaic Volume 1  focuses on the Liturgical Year, giving reading and discussion material for feast days that are definitely unique to a Catholic.
But I can see expanding to other aspects of the Catholic Faith, which includes virtues, Truth, Beauty...and see it being quite seamless.
I don't mind having books that aren't uniquely Catholic, just as long as they perfectly, without apology, teach the Faith in Perfect Truth.
Why is this thread timely for me? I had a disappointing experience today, picking up Mary of Nazareth at my library and finding such garbage within the covers. Mary wishing her child wasn't so special? And more such awful secular views of Mary I couldn't read it all.
But yesterday I finished Blessing of the Animals, which I really enjoyed. But it's about a Jewish boy who wants to take his dog for the blessing on the feast of St. Francis. Instead of a definite yes or no, his mother says to talk to 4 people he knows (Jewish) and she would talk to 4 and decide from their advice and views which way to go.
It wasn't an affront to Catholicism...the point of the book was to have the boy see the richness of his ancestry, his Faith, and his family...to uphold his uniqueness.
I couldn't help but think of how much John Paul II reached out to the Jews, how he respected their faith, their beliefs, his friends that were Jewish, and those Jews that loved him.
I thought this book would be a great discussion tool, because in seeing through another's eyes, you can look back and see how YOUR Catholic faith should be held in your own life.
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JennGM wrote:
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Oh yeah--this is my caveat also.
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