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Can anyone clarify for me if the Blessed Mother actually died and was then Assumed into Heaven? Or was she taken to Heaven before death? I read somewhere that death was a result of original sin, and she would not have been subject to it as she was not subject to labor pains during birth. Is this clearly defined or do we know?
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Paragraph 966 of the CCC (quoting from Lumen Gentium) states: "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavely glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things..."
I don't think we really know whether she actually died before she was assumed. That's what I've heard from priests anyway. Here's a page I found which references many different Church documents:
http://www.udayton.edu/mary/resources/documents/docs4-5.html
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Hmmm. I've never really thought about that particular question! Interesting!
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Traditonally, our Lady's death is referred to as the Dormition of the Blessed Virgin.
St. Alphonsus di Liguori and St. Peter Julian Eymard say that Our Lady's life was so full of burning love for God that her ties to earth are as fragile as a thread. So, when her life came to an end it as though a string were cut and she bounded to heaven.
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This site explains The Assumption very well. Like Helen said, the Dormition of Our Lady implies that without sin, she couldn't die, but fell asleep.
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JennGM wrote:
| This site explains The Assumption very well. Like Helen said, the Dormition of Our Lady implies that without sin, she couldn't die, but fell asleep. |
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The Eastern Church teaches this as doctrine I think. The Roman church doesn't. You can believe either one according to the priest we checked with last week.
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momwise wrote:
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Okay. This is one I'll have to read up on to understand better. I like hard and fast, black and white answers.
Mary was difficult for me to understand as a former Protestant, the dogma makes sense, but I hate to tell the children you can believe either one, she didn't die, or she did. The Church is so full of cut and dry answers that this teaching seems fuzzy to me. I DO believe it with all my heart as an obiedent daughter of the Church.
I will trust Mother Church and pray for the grace to better understand.
Thanks for all the answers.
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momwise wrote:
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The priest who gave the homily today at Mass addressed this very question and basically said the same thing - there were two traditions, with the dormintion being held by the Eastern Church. When Pope Pius XII declared the doctrine of the Assumption the wording (like that quoted from the catechism) was such that either tradition or belief about the end of Mary's life could be accepted. It does not make a declaration about how the course of her earthly life was completed.
"Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul to heavenly glory."
He also explained how either belief could be held and be okay theologically. Being free from sin she did not have to be subject to death - therefore the belief in the dormition as the Eastern Church holds is one view. On the other hand though we know she was not subject to death because she was free of sin, but she was mortal and she accepted death as Jesus accepted death, and she suffered (Luke 2:35) in union with his suffering.
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