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Years ago a friend of mine bought me a pink, leather bound bible. It is the NIV version.
At first I was a little taken aback that it was not a Catholic bible, but I didn't want to hurt her feelings, so I kept it and read it.
Can I just say that I love the the NIV wording? 
I find it so easy to read and so understandable.
Major downside- not all the books of the bible as Catholics know it are included.
Have you ever bought a noncatholic bible?
Is there a Catholic bible very similar in wording to the NIV?
Dh has a New American Catholic Bible, and I don't care for the translation at all.
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Here's a neat explaination on Bible translations
Bible Traslations Guide
Maybe that would help you find something closer to what you want.
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I used the NIV for years before I converted to the Catholic Church. Now, my favorite version is the Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition. It is a much more accurate translation, yet still very readable.
While some of the wording used in the NIV is not as accurate, the biggest problem with using it (IMHO) lies in the comments, which are definitely Protestant. Also, as you point out, the text is incomplete-a serious problem for Catholics.
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I must have an economy copy of the NIV, because mine has no comments in it. It is a slim volume, very portable, which I like since it is easy to travel with.
I like having at least one bible with just text and no comments- I don't like reading a bible that has one paragraph of the bible and then huge columns of maps and comments on the same page.
Isn't it wild how bibles are all set up so differently? Comments are good in a study bible, but sometimes it's nice just to read God's word.
Anyway, thank you both for the suggestions and links. I will check them out!
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Hi Melinda,
I would not go out and buy a non-Catholic Bible, although I own many non-Catholic Bibles, mostly as they belonged to family (grandparents, parents.) I converted to Catholicism in college (in fact, it will be 30 years, this April 2nd!  )
I am pasting in a piece from Catholic Answers, regarding choosing which Bible translation to use:
"...The disadvantage of dynamic translation is that there is a price to pay for readability. Dynamic translations lose precision because they omit subtle cues to the meaning of a passage that only literal translations preserve. They also run a greater risk of reading the translators’ doctrinal views into the text because of the greater liberty in how to render it.
For example, dynamic Protestant translations, such as the NIV, tend to translate the Greek word ergon and its derivatives as "work" when it reinforces Protestant doctrine but as something else (such as "deeds" or "doing") when it would serve Catholic doctrine.
The NIV renders Romans 4:2 "If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works (ergon), he had something to boast about—but not before God." This passage is used to support the Protestant doctrine of salvation by faith alone. But the NIV translates the erg- derivatives in Romans 2:6-7 differently: "God ‘will give to each person according to what he has done (erga).’ To those who by persistence in doing (ergou) good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life."
If the erg- derivatives were translated consistently as "work" then it would be clear that the passage says God will judge "every person according to his works" and will give eternal life to those who seek immortality "by persistence in working good"—statements that support the Catholic view of salvation...."
Here is the link to the whole article.
For my personal use, I have two Bibles I use:
The Ignatius Bible, Catholic RSV
This is the one I use for day-to-day reading (I have two of them, one on my nightstand, to read before bed, and one on a table in the dining room for daytime reading- my "upstairs/downstairs Bibles."  )
The other Bible I use is the Catholic RSV, but it is the New Testament only. It is The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. It has copious notes on each page- really explains the letters so well. It was recommended by our church's Bible study leader, Gary Michuta.
We also have the NAS and the NAB Bibles, too, but I don't use them on a regular basis.
I hope this helps!
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yes, this is all very helpful!
I really want to get a Catholic bible that is more reader friendly than what I have,
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I was looking at the Ignatius RSV on Amazon, and my head is swimming from the reviews.
Basically, I am looking for a compact, leather bound version that would transport easily (not a hardback). The reviewers are all over the place about which compact version has a zipper or not, which has a leather cover or fake, etc.
I feel like if I order one I will not know exactly what I am getting until it arrives in the mail 
I so wish I had a good Catholic bookstore handy to go and browse in...
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What dimensions do you want for a compact?
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I was hoping to get one 8.5 by 11 or smaller.
The NIV I have now is slighter smaller than a regular sheet of paper.
I find it is very easy to hold and read, plus it packs really well for trips.
Also, it does not seem overwhelming to read, as a large tome would.
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Just look at Ignatius website. the compact version is not the second edition, unfortunately.
We have the hardback version which I think has the same type of pages as the leather. I thought the leather was a bit flimsy for everyday use. The 6x9 size is still a nice size for me. Too much smaller and I can't read it.
There is no commentary, only footnotes like to other passages or word translation. It "reads" well.
Just a comment on the Protestant Bibles. I wish I had a link, but my criteria is how they do Luke 1, Hail Mary FULL OF GRACE....
That is very important. Highly Favored one...well, it's dubious. That's a key doctrine that you want kept...and if the Bible is changing that, where else is it watering down our Faith:
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My oldest got the leather version of the one Jenn recommends as a FHC gift from my Protestant family. They wanted to know what to get him, and this was the one we recommended to them. 
It is by far the least unwieldy Bible we own. It isn't overly large, but it is big enough that it isn't very "fat" either, which I find cumbersome, especially if you want to slip it into a bag with other books.
I have not spent a lot of time comparing translations. Lately, my scripture reading comes from either the missal or divine office, but I agree that the RSV does seem the closest to the NIV, which I used to read as a Protestant.
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I would (and have) bought non-Catholic bibles for all the reasons you mention. I don't feel bad about it because I have so many others of various translations both Catholic and non. I use them all depending on my current purpose. God speaks through them all (sometimes in most surprising ways!).
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I have this one:Ignatius Bible (RSV) leather and I absolutely LOVE it. Perfect size, supple leather cover, and very readable translation. I highly recommend it. 
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if you're having a hard time with descriptions on amazon.. you might try finding the bible whereever you can so that you're sure which you want and then use the isbn to find it on amazon.
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Just thinking...if you want your Bible to have a sturdy cover for taking along, a Bible cover might work. I had one that I used for many years, and I liked that it zippered up and had a place for a pen to mark passages.
Here is a site that is for Christian Books, which has stores in many areas. And here is another site.
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Who was it who said, the best Bible is the one that you would read?
We have several at home. 2 NABs, 2 RSV-CEs and a Douay Rheims. Would love to get a Jerusalem Bible. Like Lindsay though, these days most of my Bible readings come from LOTH.
I grew up with the Good News Bible at our Jesuit-run school >.< so when we could afford it I bought Catholic Bibles and donated our old one.
We got our compact NAB and RSV-CE (both leather-bound) from clearance at Barnes and Noble I believe -- my RSV-CE is the same as the one Jenn linked to. We also have the RSV-CE in Stacy's version -- it's our most-used one. As I get older though I find the small letters on the compact getting unbearable. I'm soooo glad I got the LOTH in large print!!!
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Melinda, I have a leather bound small RSV Bible in a zippered case out in my car. It's probably about 8 x 6 or so, with a burgundy leather cover. If you are planning to carry it around with you, the zipper really is a great idea to protect the pages. If it would help you, I can get the exact name and ISBN number for you in the morning.
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stellamaris wrote:
| Melinda, I have a leather bound small RSV Bible in a zippered case out in my car. It's probably about 8 x 6 or so, with a burgundy leather cover. If you are planning to carry it around with you, the zipper really is a great idea to protect the pages. If it would help you, I can get the exact name and ISBN number for you in the morning. |
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Yes, that would help- thank you. Will the bible open and lie flat even with the zipper?
It looks like the Ignatius RSV is the bible that would best suit me- thanks for all the ideas and input. Jodie, that is such a great idea about searching by ISBN number on Amazon. I never think of clever things like that.
Stef- In high school we used The Good News Bible, which I think is why I really don't like hard back bibles  . My copy was such a stout square block that it ate up room in my back pack and dug into my back. Plus I could never really get it to open up and lie flat.
Teresa- I'm glad that you are seconding the vote for the leather Ignatius bible. I really like the look and feel of leather, and it holds up better than paperback.
I know I won't part with my good old pink leather bible (I'm sure my friend had no idea a Catholic bible would be different), so I appreciate also the comment about how God talks to us in different ways
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Melinda. Here's the link for the RSV bible Caroline mentioned: http://www.amazon/Ignatius-Catholic-Bible-RSV-Compact-Zipper -Press/dp/1586171011/ref=sr_1_4s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=136380678 0&sr=1-4&keywords=Ignatius+Bible
I happen to have the same version. While the print is small, the pages are edged in gold and are of a nice quality paper. I really appreciate the zippered cover and the fact that it's small enough to fit in a purse.
Hope you find a bible that best suits your needs.
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Got to tell a funny story about this. My mother came to visit and I guess in her very staunch Anglican way she was somewhat flabbergasted that I didn't have the
King James Version of the Bible-so she ran out and bought one for me!!! Just like you, Melinda, I said thanks and kept it--mainly because she and my dad signed the inside cover.
Went right on reading my Ignatius RSV!
The travel Bible lies almost flat(maybe about 165 degrees open?). As Servant said, the type is small. I just keep this in my car.
A good friend of mine made a wonderful book cover for my regular-sized Ignatius bible from heavy-duty upholstery material. Between that and the leather cover, it has held up for years and still looks brand new, except all the gold leaf on the side of the pages has worn off. My previous bible fell apart from overuse in about 18 months, so I really suggest making the cover if you or a friend has the skills to sew one.
I couldn't get Servant's link to work, so the ISBN for the travel bible is.... nowhere to be found! I'm looking, but no luck! So here's a link: Ignatius Compact Bible with Zipper
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