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Dawn Forum All-Star
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Posted: Jan 25 2006 at 4:45am | IP Logged
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Has anyone used this Study Bible?
__________________ Dawn, mum to 3 boys
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Jen L. Forum All-Star
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I haven't used this Bible, but I have been discouraged from using the Today's English Version (also known as the Good News Bible) by my spiritual mentor.
I found a good article on Catholic Answers about choosing a translation: Bible Translations Guide
I recommend reading the entire article, but here are some quick quotes:
"We recommend staying away from translations with unconventional renderings, such as the TEV (Today's English Version), and suggest using the Revised Standard Version- Catholic Edition."
"One down side to using certain modern translations is that they do not use the traditional renderings of certain passages and phrases, and the reader may find this annoying. The "Good News Bible" or TEV is especially known for non-traditional renderings. For example, "the abomination of desolation" referred to in the book of Daniel and the Gospels is called "the awful horror," and the ark of the covenant is known as "the covenant box." "
The best advice: "So, which Bible is the best? Perhaps the best answer is this: The one you’ll read."
__________________ Jen
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"...the best state in which to glorify God is our actual state; the best grace is that of the moment..." St. Peter Eymard
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Rachel May Forum All-Star
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Posted: Jan 25 2006 at 9:55am | IP Logged
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I agree about avoiding the Good News Bible (TEV) which was translated completely by Protestants, I believe, rather than an ecumenical group or just Catholics. It's readable, but some passages are far from the New American which I know many Catholics do not think is good enough. One example is when Rachel is hiding the idols from her father.
If you have a chance to get your hands on a Good News translation (library?), you could compare texts with a other translations to see which you find most readable. One thing to keep in mind is that there are only a few translations acceptable to be read at Mass. You might start by looking for one of those translations and then looking for a study version of one of those or a Bible study to go along with it.
I would worry also that the color coding would give me trouble. I would see a text as having to do with what the publisher thinks the text has to say rather than letting the Holy Spirit lead me.
Totally my 2 cents since I haven't settled on a good study Bible either.
__________________ Rachel
Thomas and Anthony (10), Maria (8), Charles (6), Cecilia (5), James (3), and Joseph (1)
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JennGM Forum Moderator
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Posted: Jan 25 2006 at 10:08am | IP Logged
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My first reaction about the rainbow commentary: I had learned there was a rainbow bible that highlighted all sorts of passages in different colors, color-coding what time and who was the author of the passage. This was in particular in the Pentateuch. After all the colors, your conclusion would be that this wasn't inspired text at all, but put together by different people, no miracles, no Divine writing. Sheesh! I can see this isn't the same version.
Good article, Jennifer. I'll just add my opinion.
I concur that the Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition is one of the better translations out there. This is the same version Dr. Scott Hahn uses, and recommends in his teaching at Franciscan University. There are other binding options available at Ignatius Press.
If you're looking for commentaries or study guides, I have a few suggestions:
The RSVCE translation is used in the Navarre Bibles, which have terrific commentaries all throughout the bible. That's why it's hard to find one volume for the whole bible, as the commentaries would make this text outrageously heavy! They are printed by Scepter Press. If the price and the amount of books is discouraging, just keep your eyes out for used or deals. I've now gotten some GREAT deals at the NACHE conference at the Scepter table. They sell seconds at the conference, about 50% some gorgeous books.
I have not seen it, but Scott Hahn et al have several volumes of the Ignatius Study Bible.
Finally, another Scott Hahn project, Understanding the Scriptures: A complete Course on Bible Study. Geared toward High school, this is a gorgeous textbook, full of information. I enjoyed reading it myself.
But what I have in my house are several translations, commentaries, maps and Synopsis to help flesh out the readings. I've picked up older bibles, so I have Dhouay-Rheims (or Challoner), Jerusalem (NOT New Jerusalem), and Mgsr. Knox translations. I also have New American, but I don't like that one. But when I read a passage that I don't understand, or don't like the "feel" of the translation, I pull out several translations and lay them out and compare to get a feel. Now, I do this with recipes, too, so I'm revealing a little quirk of mine!
A key passage to read in different translations is Luke 1:28, the Hail Mary. Is it "Hail Mary, full of GRACE"? Or "Rejoice oh highly favored daughter"? We are not to water down that Mary was immaculately conceived and full of grace.
__________________ Jennifer G. Miller
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JennGM Forum Moderator
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Posted: Jan 25 2006 at 10:21am | IP Logged
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I was looking on my shelf. I had taken a Bible course under Dr. Scott Hahn, so these are some of his recommendations. Unfortunately, there aren't too many Catholic guides or commentaries that are meaty and true to the Faith for the Bible. That's why he did the Ignatius Study Bible.
A. Fuentes A Guide to the Bible, Four Courts Press, Lumen Christi Press, 1983 is an excellent, albeit brief overview of the Bible, and very Catholic. It may be OOP.
Rome and the Study of Scripture is a collection of Papal enactments on the Study of Holy Scripture together with the Decisions of the Biblical Commission. This was done in 1964 the last version by Abbey PRess, St. Meinrad. This is a classic work with the teachings on Biblical study, but of course, it isn't up to date. It may be hard to find, also>
__________________ Jennifer G. Miller
Wife to & ds1 '03 & ds2 '07
Family in Feast and Feria
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Dawn Forum All-Star
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Posted: Jan 25 2006 at 11:11am | IP Logged
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Thank you Jennifer, Rachel and Jenn, for your thoughtful responses!
I truly appreciate your opinions and the time you took to post links and look back at your own resources! I am still re-reading your posts and checking out all the links and ideas. So much to consider, but I am excited to be on this path!
Thanks again !
__________________ Dawn, mum to 3 boys
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