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donnalynn
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My daughter is helping the second grade catechist this year as part of her community service requirement.
I also know the teacher and what I have been hearing is so discouraging - many of the children are so disrespectful - to both the teacher and what is being taught. In 2nd grade!!! I think of seceond graders as still mostly little sponges who love to soak up Bible stories, and learning prayers, and wanting to please a teacher.
They already seem so jaded. It's heartbreaking! Anyone else seeing this? I went to pick up my dd yesterday and was greeted by the DRE who told me how dd had come down from the classroom and said "I need a drink!"  The DRE gave her a Pepsi.
But I really don't understand it - I am praying in earnest for our catechists.
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Perhaps siblings of kids who are older and picking that up from how those older siblings act?
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I'm teaching 2nd grade this year, and I haven't noticed this here. BUT, I do know most of the kids and the parents. and I think that goes a long way in how kids behave in that setting.
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Could be just a difficult group of kids. It happens sometimes. I know when I was a public school teacher we had classes of kids that were consistently difficult from year to year. Us teachers always dreaded when it was our turn to have one certain notoriously difficult class, and rejoiced at the end of the year when we could pass them along to the next victim (I mean teacher). 
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Our classes here seem fine in the younger grades, even my dd who is in 5th says the class is fun and doesn't mention anyone getting out of hand. My mom, though, teaches in PA and has had some really difficult classes when she was teaching 4th. She would get so frustrated because she really put a lot of thought and effort into planning interesting things for them to do, and they were still very disrespectful. My mom has a hard time being firm though.
My dd13 had some obnoxious kids in her class last year, but this year she has a male teacher and I think he was firm from the very first day, letting the kids know what he will and won't put up with. She said he's nice and will joke around, just won't put up with any rude behaviors.
So maybe a little of it has to do with the firmness of the teacher from the start? Don't really know, just making an observation.
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I taught 3rd/4th grade PSR and there were some obnoxious, jaded kids in there. The girls especially seem to pick this up so early anymore. The boys were just generally rowdy, but the girls wanted to act like little "teenagers". I've never taught second grade. I taught first grade for a while and they were still very sweet then. I decided after that experience that I didn't want to teach anything older than 2nd grade again. 
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A few years ago I taught 3rd and it was awful! The kids were rude, obnoxious, and jaded. Most hadn't been to church since they made their First Communion. 
This year I got sucked into teaching 5th grade and was terrified! But I have a nice group of kids, just 6 of them and most of them are very earnest about learning more about our faith. They come in with intelligent questions and have obviously given the reading thought.
I won't teach 2nd grade ever again! Not intending to be disrespectful (or controversial  ) ...but too many parents shove their kids in at 2nd grade just for Communion. There are too many families that use the Church as a Sacrament "mart" and only come to the Church when its "time". The children are not being taken to Sunday Mass, and there is little follow through at home. The children see the lack of value their parents put on the faith and they take that attitude to CCD. We have 4 times the number of 2nd graders as the next largest group! There are 155 children in first grade, 620  2nd graders and 121 in third grade
Sorry stepping off my soapbox
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I have noticed this disrespect while out in public. We were at the beach a few weeks ago, and there were two boys about 7-8 throwing sand at each other while my 2 and 4 yo were in the cross-fire. First, I politely asked them to be care. To no avail. Then, I outright asked them to stop. To no avail. Then, I said, "If you don't stop, there is going to be a problem here," to which the little boy said with such boldness and arrogance, "Ok. We'll just keep throwing sand!" I was shocked to be talked to that way by someone so young!!! (At this point I am wondering where their parents are...and I think I spot them on the beach)...so I pull the "mom" card. "Alright, boys, let's go have a chat with your moms...now." That seemed to stop the behavior.
But that is not the first time something like that has happened to me...I have been cussed at openly at the park by 10-12 year olds...it's CRAZY!!! And that is only for asking them to watch their language around my children...good grief!
These episodes fall under the category "just another reason we don't send our kids to school...reason 10,043."
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Where my parents live (affluent NYC suburb) the girls wear spaghetti-strap dresses and have their hair "done" for FHC. Depressing. They need our prayers.
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My parish has mandated that dresses must have covered shoulders for FHC.
Given that we have FHC in November (not enough room and time to have all the special sacramental prep classes and retreats in spring) I was rather surprised to find that this was actually a problem for some moms.
Now my MIL does go all out with my dds' FHC dresses but she at least has good taste and the dresses are appropriate for their age if a bit more then I'd have considered on my own.
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