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teachingmyown Forum All-Star
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Posted: Feb 13 2008 at 8:41pm | IP Logged
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This question came up this evening: do we still pray the different mysteries each night in Lent or only prayer the Sorrowful Mysteries? It does seem a little odd to pray the Glorious Mysteries during this season.
As an aside, there is something I have been wondering but too lazy to look up anywhere else. In the Hail Mary, do you say "among women" or "amongst women"? Is one right, and why? I grew up saying amongst, but I seem to read among in most resources these days. Just wondering!
Thanks!
__________________ In Christ,
Molly
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Aggie gal Forum Pro
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Posted: Feb 13 2008 at 11:20pm | IP Logged
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We've just been praying the Sorrowful Mysteries each day, with the exception of Sundays when we'll do the Glorious. Not sure if we're correct tho.. been meaning to look it up myself.
Sorry, not much help..
__________________ Amy
Married to Rob, Momma to Patrick (17), Braden (14), Nathan (11), Benjamin (10), Aurea (8), Peter (6), Rosie (3) and Baby Blaise
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MaryM Board Moderator
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Posted: Feb 14 2008 at 2:09am | IP Logged
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Where I have seen variations by liturgical season is the Sundays in Lent, Advent, Easter, etc. but other days remain the same.
Joyful Mysteries - Sundays during Advent and after Epiphany to Lent
Sorrowful Mysteries - Sundays during Lent
Glorious Mysteries - Sundays Easter to Advent
But I'm not sure during what time frame that was "official" or honestly if it ever was. I believe it is a custom of tradition. In Pope John Paul II's ROSARIUM VIRGINIS MARIAE discusses the distribution over time of praying the particular mysteries and does not give indication of the Sundays (or any other day) being different during any liturgical season.
According to current practice, Monday and Thursday are dedicated to the “joyful mysteries”, Tuesday and Friday to the “sorrowful mysteries”, and Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday to the “glorious mysteries”. Where might the “mysteries of light” be inserted? If we consider that the “glorious mysteries” are said on both Saturday and Sunday, and that Saturday has always had a special Marian flavour, the second weekly meditation on the “joyful mysteries”, mysteries in which Mary's presence is especially pronounced, could be moved to Saturday. Thursday would then be free for meditating on the “mysteries of light”.
He also states:
"This indication is not intended to limit a rightful freedom in personal and community prayer, where account needs to be taken of spiritual and pastoral needs and of the occurrence of particular liturgical celebrations which might call for suitable adaptations" (Rosarium Virginis Mariae, 38).
I think the imporant thing is to be praying the Rosary and if it is helpful to anyone's spiritual growth and medition to choose particular mysteries to pray at any given time that is fine. It is a personal prayer and not a liturgical prayer. Since it is not a liturgical prayer there are no specific regulations governing its recital.
And regarding the "among" vs. "amongst" I don't think it matters. They are essentially the same word. You also see/hear variations between use of thy and your. For example - "Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus." vs. "Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus."
Thy, thou, amongst are older more formal English, would that be a correct statment?
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Growing up in a modern Catholic school, we always prayed
"you" and "your" instead of "thou" and "thy"
As an adult when we reverted to the more traditional prayer, we opted to use "amongst".
However, I always feel out of place when we go to adoration and all the other homeschooling moms and kids say "among" instead of "amongst". Which is it really?
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Tina P. Forum All-Star
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I have to agree with Mary that you need to say whatever you're comfortable saying. We say "thy" and "thou", but also say "among."
I sometimes feel a bit tongue-tied at adoration with a family who says a little prayer after each decade. But then we say an extra prayer right before the closing prayer of the rosary and an extended meal prayer ~ I grew up saying the before and after meal prayer all as one.
Don't feel out of place, Stef. We're all just doing the best we can.
God bless,
__________________ Tina, wife to one and mom to 9 + 3 in heaven
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During Stations of the Cross at our parish, the congregation uses modern language for all of the prayers, EXCEPT the Hail Mary, which for some reason I've not defined I find intensely amusing. No matter how hard I try I cannot bring myself to use modern English for the prayers - if I can't say them in Latin, my tongue automatically says them with the thy and thou and amongst, etc. It really only seems to stand out when we say "because by Thy holy cross, Thou hast redeemed the world" which has a different feel and makes my utterings stand out.
Technically, it's all accurate - and we do have one woman who says ALL of the prayers of the Mass in Latin when everyone else says them in English. I find it a much richer experience in the end.
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