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Posted: July 02 2010 at 1:07pm | IP Logged Quote Betsy

I needs some help in creating Art Prints from websites like those listed in this previous post..

First, I want to make sure there isn't any copyright problems. I *believe*, from reading a post somewhere on here about copyright laws, that as educators we can make copies of things from the web to use in the classroom. Please, let me know if I am interpreting this wrongly.

If there are no copyright issues, what would like to do is: pick a few prints from a particular artist from Olga's Gallery, for example, and have them printed onto photo paper.   The problem that I am running into is the the resolution of the picture will only let me make wallet size prints. Is there a way to correct this to get approx. a 8x10?

Thanks for all of your help!
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 11:56am | IP Logged Quote Betsy

Bump. Does anyone have any ideas??? Thanks!!!!!
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 12:08pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm

The problem with the resolution really can't be remedied. If you want to make large prints you are going to have to find a source with larger file size pics.
Here is what I do.
Use Google images to find several images to choose from. Under the image link it should give you the file size. Choose the one with the largest size. That will give you the best resolution for printing. Go to the link. Click on "see full size image." Check the full size image to make sure there are no watermarks or anything that did not show up on the thumbnail.If it is good and crisp, Save the image to your computer. Print it up at home or take a disc full to a print shop to be printed.
I can't help you with the copy-write issues as I don't know the laws that well. I am only using them at home, so I don't think it is an issue, but you never know, it may indeed violate copy-write, so check it out fist if you feel uncomfortable about it.

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Posted: July 06 2010 at 12:21pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Theresa has good advice. I've found Web Gallery of Art has a little better resolution than Olga's.

I've printed out 8x10 art for our use and haven't been too dissatisfied in the resolution.

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 12:15am | IP Logged Quote MicheleQ

I stopped printing out pictures because of the resolution issue and the price of toner. I found that our library has plenty of art books with big beautiful pictures so we use them as we study various artists and time periods. The librarian told me I am the only one who checks those books out. They are big and heavy but the images are worth the weight!

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 12:36am | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

Well the copyright seems to be ok.. like at Olga's Gallery.. it has a terms of use link.
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All written materials on Olga's Gallery are original work and may not be reproduced in any form without express written permission from Olga's Gallery.


Use of all artwork on the website is governed by the terms of the Fair Use doctrine of United States copyright law as being non-profit and educational in nature. Our mission is to promote the understanding and appreciation of art worldwide. Olga's Gallery is operated on a strictly not-for-profit basis, and all proceeds from advertising and affiliate sales is used to maintain and expand the gallery. We purposely use low-resolution images on our website to prevent potential unlawful for-profit use of the artwork.


As such, images from Olga's Gallery are freely available for Fair Use as defined in United States copyright law. Users must, however, cite the source of the image as they would material from any printed work, and the citations should include the URL "www.abcgallery.com."



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Posted: July 07 2010 at 6:25am | IP Logged Quote SeaStar

I printed art last year from my computer to use at home and found the resolution to be so-so at best. Some prints came out so terribly off it was almost funny. If I wanted to print my own now, I would save the images to a disk and take it somewhere like Office Depot to have the prints made, hoping for better results.

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 9:08am | IP Logged Quote Betsy

THanks for all of the input.

I am constantly wondering how the lady at AmbleSide Online made her prints? They always turned out so nice!

I agree with you, Melinda, about printing at home. I have always gone to Staples/Office Max and had them printed on photo paper. It's worth the $$ to have them use their ink and better quality printer.

Jen and Thersa, thanks for the tips. I have been scouring web sights to find higher resolution prints. I have checked them with a printing service to see how good the quality is, and the biggest size print that I could get is 5x7, in the highest resolution that I could find.

I know that this question/problem has been discussed before. But it's hard when you want to do a particular artist and you don't have an old calendar or book (although, I haven't scoured the library--thanks for reminding me of that very simple option Michele). In this day and age it just seems like this should be a really easy thing to do!!!!

Please chime in if you have any other helpful information. I am soaking it all up!!!!

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 10:12am | IP Logged Quote JennGM

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THanks for all of the input.

I am constantly wondering how the lady at AmbleSide Online made her prints? They always turned out so nice!


Could you link to what you are referring to?

I think another thing about printing is the quality of paper. High gloss cardstock makes a much nicer picture.

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 1:05pm | IP Logged Quote Betsy

Sorry Jenn for not being more clear!

Hereis where Amble Side Online posts the Artist and Composers they are studying for the year.

If you join the AOArtPrints yahoo group you can get pdf's of the current artist as well as the ones listed in the past.

This is a great resource for art prints and I have printed these at Staples on photo paper many times and been very pleased. This year, however, I switched curriculum and they are using a few Artists that aren't covered at AO. I *thought* that it would be easy to duplicate this....not so!!!!

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 2:09pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM

Betsy, that was very helpful, thanks. Those are nice files. I have found that it's a mixed bag to find a high resolution image, but there are some to be had.

Here's an example of what I do:

Because it was too large, I uploaded some Caravaggio prints that I would have added to the choices that were presented in the AO. The church in Rome that has St. Paul falling off the horse also has the companion painting of St. Peter being crucified. I think having them both is important, because that's how I saw them in rome.

Anyway, if you find this presentation satisfactory, here's what I do. I find the art files, save to my computer. Like mentioned, they need to be good resolution. That probably is the longest search. While there is so much art online, it's surprising how much isn't. All those Magnificat covers have some wonderful art found only in private collections! (That's another way of getting nice prints, although smaller than 8x10).

Anyway, after getting the files, I use Open Office because I can make .pdf files. But you could use Word, too, especially if you aren't making a .pdf file.

I make a new document, insert image, drag the corners to make it fit the page, insert text, save document. Then I export as .pdf. There are options to make nice borders like the AO files. It's not hard.

All these files were found on Web Art Gallery. Wikipedia also has some files, but look at the size first.

It seems the more modern the art, the less is online.

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Posted: July 07 2010 at 2:35pm | IP Logged Quote Betsy

Thanks Jenn for the detailed explanation! I just need to be more persistent.

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Betsy,
I'm throwing out another option that has become our standby. I found a GREAT used book store and stomp it about 3 times a year for inexpensive coffee table books. I then dis-assemble the books and trim and laminate the art images. We use these for picture study. I file my images in my file system by month when the art corresponds to something/someone significant in the liturgical year. If a piece of art has nothing to do with the liturgical year, I file by artist's name.

I've found a number of amazing art images this way. The quality is excellent, and all I have to do is laminate. Some images I mount to cardstock first and then laminate to add durability.

A few special books that were found I chose not to unbind. But many/most - I rip apart and use the images! I started doing this because I found the same thing that the other ladies found - I was frustrated with the resolution and printing issues. Hope this throws another option into the mix.

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Betsy,
I'm throwing out another option that has become our standby. I found a GREAT used book store and stomp it about 3 times a year for inexpensive coffee table books. I then dis-assemble the books and trim and laminate the art images. We use these for picture study. I file my images in my file system by month when the art corresponds to something/someone significant in the liturgical year. If a piece of art has nothing to do with the liturgical year, I file by artist's name.

I've found a number of amazing art images this way. The quality is excellent, and all I have to do is laminate. Some images I mount to cardstock first and then laminate to add durability.

A few special books that were found I chose not to unbind. But many/most - I rip apart and use the images! I started doing this because I found the same thing that the other ladies found - I was frustrated with the resolution and printing issues. Hope this throws another option into the mix.


Thanks for the info. THis isn't a short term possibility, but it's probably the best long term solution! I need to scour my used book stores. Can I ask how much you pay, on average, for the coffee table art books used? I know over the years I have seen some at brick and mortar books stores for around $20 in there bargain sections.
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Posted: July 07 2010 at 8:35pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam

Betsy,
I'm willing to pay as much as $10 for a good coffee table book with quality art images. Generally, I shoot for around $5.

I check in the art section, the religion section, and the decor section. I can find them in various places in the bookstore. Another good place to check is at library discard sales. I can find them for a quarter a piece at these sales!

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