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At this post we talked about teaching our kids science when science isn't our thing. I've decided to use something on line for Science for next year. Which brings me to Latin. We've been struggling with Latina Christiana for 8 years (that would be all my kids). Besides Science, that is the one subject that never goes well because I really don't like to teach it, AND, I don't have a very good understanding of it myself. Is there a better resource for this? I would love something on line or on DVD. Not that I want to pass my kids off to the computer and go eat bon bons. I just don't do a good job of teaching it and I get so frustrated, it often gets left undone. Any help here?
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Are you saying you have the Latina Christiana DVDs and they aren't working for you? Or that you did LC w/o the DVDs and now you want something on DVD?
I do believe First Form Latin (also at Memoria Press) will have DVDs soon...
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Sorry, Amy, I should have been more clear. We have not used the LC DVDs. Maybe the answer is as simple as that. 
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I was going to ask the same question Amy asked, Becky.
I feel your pain on teaching Latin. We struggled with Latina Christiana for a few years as well...WITHOUT the DVD's. I finally broke down and bought them, and though dry, they are making a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE difference for my dd and I. I just wanted to mention that if you don't have the DVD's they are immensely helpful for a mom who has no latin experience herself (that would be me, btw!).
Also, I realized that I have to dig in and learn this alongside my daughter, so I'm watching the DVD's with her. I don't memorize all the Latin vocabulary as she does, but I do memorize the prayers of the church with her. I realized that this was something I was going to have to get my hands dirty with and just learn because if she has to translate a sentence, declining a noun and conjugating a verb, and needs any help or just someone to walk through it with her a few times, I needed to at least have a sense of the different cases and declensions.
If you absolutely cannot be involved with her, you might consider one of the online courses offered by Memoria Press.
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We like them, but I know some people do not. 
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My daughter and I are really enjoying our online Latin class. We use Lingua Latina(text, exercises, stories,and skits) at www.lonepineclassical.com. 100 meets Tuesday and Thursday 9.20 - 10.40 am central for class and help session (for all levels) is 6.00 pm Thursdays. She's also available anytime via email for questions.
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We just started First Form Latin with the DVDs (after it took us a year and a half to finish LC I. ) I thought the DVDs would make it easier on me for those times when I needed to be more hands-off. I don't mind teaching Latin -- I don't have any background in it, but I like learning languages -- but with so many little ones counting on my intensive involvement in anything on a daily basis isn't really, um... realistic.
Anyway, it's taken us 3 weeks to get through the first real lesson (lesson 2, I think), which is technically a review lesson if you've done LC 1. There are a few things I am discovering about this curriculum that make it less hands-off than I originally thought.
1. Some information is only given in the DVDs, and not in the Teacher's Manual or the Student Text. So if you've forgotten to take notes (or didn't know you were supposed to) you will not be able to answer some of the workbook questions. (Maybe this changes as the book goes on, I don't know.)
2. Some information is given only in the Teacher's Manual and not in the Student Text, so the students are unable to independently look up the information. This drove me nuts in LC 1 and continues to drive me nuts now. Moreover, my kids get antsy during the DVDs (me, too), and it would be nice if all the info were in the student text. But this is definitely not a "Teach Yourself" sort of curriculum.
3. The directions and abbrevations in the workbook take some deciphering on the part of a grown-up before the kids will know what to do. I think that they'll get used to the format, the abbreviations, etc. as we go along, but it did take me some time puzzling it out at first.
Anyway, I wouldn't really call it "self-directed", although the kids are able to do some *parts* of it on their own. (My kids are 13 and 10, btw.) I think we'll all adjust to it in time, but if you are looking for something your child can do completely independent of you, this is not it. If you really want to be almost entirely hands-off... I think I'd look into an online class. I've thought about signing my kids up, but we're starting and ending our programs at such weird times -- and taking longish trips in the middle of a semester -- that I didn't think the online class would really work for us either.
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I clicked on here hoping to offer a perspective non-DVD related 
We don't have DVDs, but that's because I'm comfortable with Latin (ecclesiastical) pronunciation, i.e., Tagalog/Filipino has a lot of Spanish in it, and so it makes it easier for me/us to transition to Italian and then of course Latin. That said, after reading this thread I think my kids would really benefit from the DVDs! They are really starting to get bored with Latin and active learning has slowed to almost a standstill.
What I *have* done is get books from Bolchazy Carducci plus "fun" books like Latin for Dummies and Winnie Ille Pu, and stopped having formal Latin lessons for the time being (about 3 months now). So we still "do" Latin everyday, but not the way we were doing it before (we went from Lingua Angelica, to LC I & II to Henle Latin, and stopped about 1/3 of the way). DD-8 is doing Prima Latina on her own with a bit of help from me/us every now and then.
I wish I could find someone who has used these DVDs though. I found them recently, but they are pricey and I'm still wondering if we need them or not.
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How much homework do you find you have Rebecca? (sort of off topic here!) and what age is your dd?
I looked at the website and found my daughter might really like this next year (we have done the first few sections of Henle 1).
I find the independent Latin hard as well- I basically have to keep up with my kids in the grammar department in Henle to be able to help them with any problems. The vocab. isn't a big deal as I can just look it up as I work with them (I also work backwards alot from the answer key when I am helping them!)
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We have struggled with LC also. I have the DVD's and they didn't make much of a difference for us. I just need a teacher for it.
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Maybe Getting Started with Latin would work for you.
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The Getting Started with Latin does look so good and when I emailed a question in the past I got a pretty quick answer.
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Memeoria Press also have an Independent Study Program a recorded class which is much cheaper than their online class. So it's not live but a good option for someone like me who is asleep when Americans are awake
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My question would be: what is your goal in learning Latin?
Is it to speak it fluently like a second language? Is it familiarity with the Mass in Latin? Is it just for vocabulary building or understanding Latin & Greek roots? Cultural appreciation? Getting a leg up on future seminary studies?
Different programs have different goals. There's no reason to torture yourself with a complete grammatical study of Latin if all you really want is for the kids to understand what is being said in a Latin Mass or to be able to decode common English words with Latin roots.
On the other hand, if your goal is to get a serious start on the kind of study that your sons might encounter in seminary, you might be interested in CLAA's Grammar I-III online classes which teaches Latin and Greek and you don't have to know any of it.
What's your goal?
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LeeAnn wrote:
My question would be: what is your goal in learning Latin?
On the other hand, if your goal is to get a serious start on the kind of study that your sons might encounter in seminary, you might be interested in CLAA's Grammar I-III online classes which teaches Latin and Greek and you don't have to know any of it.
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It is my understanding (from viewing samples on CLAA) that they use Classical pronunciation. This might be problematic for those who have already done Church Latin or want that. Just thought I would point that out. I considered CLAA for Latin, but we want Church Latin.
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Yes, in fact we're using it right now with my sixth grader and fourth grader. I love this approach to Latin. It has short lessons and can be done completely orally. Although I've had Latin in school for seven years (grade 7 through 13 -- there are 13 years of school in Germany, if you want to attend university), this program can be done by someone who doesn't know Latin. You can just hand the book to your student and learn with him or her. My fourth grader hasn't had any problems so far. Before using this program, my children listened to the CDs I am Reading Latin.
Two other programs that I think look interesting are The Great Latin Adventure and Latin's Not So Tough!. My son is using Hey, Andrew! Teach Me Some Greek! from the same company that makes Latin's Not So Tough! and we really like it.
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LLMom wrote:
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LLMom, I searched over on the CLAA forum to find the answer to this. Both the Petty School Reading and the Grammar I classes teach both the classical and ecclesiastical pronunciations. You can search on the CLAA forum for "ecclesiastical" and find the references.
Hope that helps!
~LeeAnn
ETA: removed longer quote for brevity's sake
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And CLAA's Classical Grammar is totally self-directed. Mom can always incorporate some ideas and a bit of help but it truly is the child's coursework.
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Kristie 4 wrote:
How much homework do you find you have Rebecca? (sort of off topic here!) and what age is your dd?
I looked at the website and found my daughter might really like this next year (we have done the first few sections of Henle 1).
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Well, honestly, a lot. If I recall, the teacher said that the older kids should be spending 3 hours (about an hour per day on non-class days)on homework/study and the younger (my girl) may need 4 hours per week. and we do.
The kind of homework varies. We have:
-- exercitia: fill in the blank, write your own sentence, choose the correct pronoun, et c.
-- read and translate
-- read and answer questions
-- read and write an overview of the story.
-- draw cartoon based on play
-- Make a family tree
-- read, read, read, read, read, read
-- read the text
-- read the history/culture notes
-- read mythology
-- practice vocabulary
-- practice paradigms
-- play, play, play games that practice vocab, et c. (they're on quia.com)
That's outside of class and not all of it everyday. A week might look like this:
M: listen to never ending noun song, re read chapter, read culture notes, complete exercitia I - 10, play 3 games.
T: class
W: re read chapter, read mythology notes, listen to noun song, complete exercitia XI- XV, play 3 different games.
R: class
F:re read chapter, read play, draw a six-panel cartoon based on the play, complete last two exercitia, play two games.
Notice that it doesn't say "study." it's usually assumed.
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