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Posted: Sept 11 2007 at 10:31pm | IP Logged Quote Kristie 4

We just received Singapore math for my ds7. I have had two go through most of the MUS levels, and as much as I have enjoyed it, I wanted a change.

Anyways, how do those of you who use Singapore use it? I have the textbook and workbook. Today we skimmed the first 1/3 which was much to easy, found where he should start, and then worked through a couple pages of the textbook and then stopped when there was the little arrow at the bottom of the page showing which exercises to do in the workbook. Am I on the right track here?

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Posted: Sept 12 2007 at 12:29am | IP Logged Quote ALmom

Kristie: That sounds right to me, but we use them very loosely. We tend to discuss the textbook (and not write in it so we can reuse) and then write in the workbook. In the homeschool manual they give hands on ideas to supplement and we do those when I think dc isn't just getting a concept or to introduce something totally new. I also use my own ways to introduce new concepts especially if dc seems to need differing explanations.   We have not yet used the word problems or the advanced problems but am planning to with my math and science fan. The big thing is to make sure they really get it before going on as there isn't a lot of repetition built in.

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Posted: Sept 12 2007 at 10:22am | IP Logged Quote Kristie 4

Janet,
I did not know there was a homeschool manuel. It was not listed at our local homeschool book provider. Are the word problems/advanced problems also in a separate book?

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Posted: Sept 12 2007 at 10:24am | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

My kids just work through the workbooks, and if we encounter a problem we will go back and review the concept in the text. Very laid back here.

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Posted: Sept 12 2007 at 10:26am | IP Logged Quote Kristie 4

Good to know Molly. That is how my ds7 likes it anyways- he doesn't like to wait for mom

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Posted: Sept 13 2007 at 12:07pm | IP Logged Quote Barbara C.

I really recommend going to the Singapore Math website. Not only does it have the complete listing of all curriculum available (including contents and sample pages), but it also has a forum where you can get direct help from the moderator and other parents on how to use the material. There are also free placement tests for people transferring from another curriculum but many people also use these as end-of-year assessments before moving on to the next grade level.

I just checked and the home instructions guides are now available for every level of primary math. Janet is correct about making sure that they thoroughly understand a math concept before moving to the next one; Singapore really emphasizes this or the kids could get really lost and slowed down the road. There are several sets of supplementary workbooks that may be used to practice tougher concepts or to buy some time before moving to the next grade level.
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Posted: Sept 13 2007 at 4:30pm | IP Logged Quote ~Rachel~

We use the textbook to cover the concept... really skimming what is easy, then do the workbook daily. Sometimes I'll do several sections in a row in the textbook so DS can just keep going in his workbook
I DO have the homeschool manual... just as a backup if I need ideas on how to re-inforce a certain subject, or how to teach it, but I rarely use it

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Hi,

I just wanted to share something....Do not go ahead if your child doesn't totally get the concept! Singapore Math is a mastery based program and does not have the multiple chapters of review at the beginning of each year, in fact their is essentially no review. I found this out the hard way. We had to go back and redo an entire year all over again...

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Kristie 4 wrote:
Janet,
I did not know there was a homeschool manuel. It was not listed at our local homeschool book provider. Are the word problems/advanced problems also in a separate book?


I need some clarification on the TM or homeschool manual differences too. I don't have any TM now and hope to get one for the next level. I have heard of one from Singapore. Then it appears Sonlight produces one. I need the one with the games and answer key. Rainbow has 2 I believe and I have no idea which to get. HELP!

As far as your ? about the different books for students-
There is the text, the exercises (or workbook) and then an intensive practice book also. So, you could have 3 books your dc could use. At least that I am aware of.

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Posted: Oct 16 2007 at 7:15am | IP Logged Quote Lori B

mom2mpr wrote:
I need the one with the games and answer key.
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There is the text, the exercises (or workbook) and then an intensive practice book also. So, you could have 3 books your dc could use. At least that I am aware of.


You want the homeschool manual. And there is also a word problem book for each level, which my math-loving 6yo asks to "play" with almost every day, but would have sent my math-intensely-disliking 12yod into a depression The extra books are optional- the Intensive Practice book adds a bit of a challenge for more advanced students, and the Word Problems I would only use if your child needs the extra practice with them, or enjoys that aspect of math. There are plenty of word problems already in the workbook.

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Posted: Oct 16 2007 at 10:19am | IP Logged Quote ALmom

There is also an Extra Practice workbook which adds extra practice problems if you need them (not the same as the intensive practice problems which are designed to challenge the mathematically gifted student).

I don't bother so much with the extra practice book because I have so much math stuff already here and if I have a child that just needs extra reinforcement of a concept, I pull out Developmental math, Saxon or any other text I have around the house.

Also expect to fly through some books and take several years on others - it all depends on which concepts your child already gets and which are tougher. My son, the math and science fan, spent quite a bit of time in 3B - thought he'd never make it through this one - and we did extra practice, then he did 4A a bit faster and 4B in about 1 month. I also take some breaks to really work hands on or make math facts automatic with games or other such things. Don't get hung up on having to be in the level according to grade level.

I think 1A went extremely fast for us, (we have a first grader that started with Singapore) and then 1B went just about as fast. My child is now going at a good pace through 2A but I'm thinking we will take a short break after 2A and do some extra facts practice (my children love doing a baseball game using math facts) briefly - just so those facts become automatic.

Also since you already have MUS stuff, I will pull it out from time to time to introduce something difficult. I used it to reinforce place value and for fractions - something I think MUS does particularly well. If I have some of the Montessori stuff, I use that as well and then they use this to supplement anything else I'm doing. Dont' think it is absolutely necessary to go out and purchase any of this - guess what I'm saying is that I utilize what I have on hand.
Hope that helps.

There are a couple of things in 3B and 4A that the books don't seem to introduce to the child - and these seem to have been overlooked in the guides as well, so be sure to spend some time with other stuff on those concepts and go back to the book. It is nothing hard to do - in 3B they failed to discuss long division and in 4A it was multiplying larger numbers. With the long division concept we did pull out our developmental math. For the mulitiplication it was a simple explanation that helped him make his own connection and he took off.

Hope this helps.

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