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Is it teacher (mom) intensive or this something your child can follow along themselves?
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Elizabeth Founder
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It's something your child can follow along by himself, particularly since right now they only have it available for 7th grade up.
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I *have* to post this for anyone thinking about switching to TT. My eldest dd has never cared for math...ever . TT has erased the past. Both my kids love doing their math lessons now. They look forward to it each day.
I can sincerely say I thought I would never see this day, especailly with our eldest dd.
As the children we going to bed this evening, I heard this discussion going on between 4 of them (the other 2 too little for program)..."I'm going to math first." "No, I am." "No. *I* am." says yet another. They are not trying to get it over with, they look forward to it. Who would have ever thought...
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TT now has 5th and 6th grades as well!!!
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cfa83 wrote:
I *have* to post this for anyone thinking about switching to TT. My eldest dd has never cared for math...ever . TT has erased the past. Both my kids love doing their math lessons now. They look forward to it each day.
I can sincerely say I thought I would never see this day, especailly with our eldest dd.
As the children we going to bed this evening, I heard this discussion going on between 4 of them (the other 2 too little for program)..."I'm going to math first." "No, I am." "No. *I* am." says yet another. They are not trying to get it over with, they look forward to it. Who would have ever thought... |
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This is good to hear! I'll be using it for the first time with 2 of my ds next week!! One of them just does not like math. I'm hoping this will make a difference.
Can you tell me what it is they like about it? And do they use the CDs regularly (I'm assuming that's what the "I'm first, No, me" is about?)
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Mary G Forum All-Star
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So is this what y'all are talking about ... Teaching Textbooks? I don't need it yet, but it does look good!
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cfa83 Forum Pro
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Tami,
I think if you did the book alone (sanes the DVD's) it's just like any math program out there. The big plus, imo, is in the DVD's. No matter what problem they get wrong, the program automatically will "show and tell" them how to do the problem correctly and the *why*. BIG PLUS. It's just not mindless imput of numbers to fit the formula (like I did with math). It also takes the burden off me (having 6 kids).
We used Saxon for some time. My eldest dd who struggled with math (regardless of the program) would have the same errors I thought we had reviewed well enough. They would pop up down the line again. With TT, the correction is immediate but without the stress of...me! The presentations combined with the simple graphics make it so doable (even for a math phobic like myself). I would liken it to instead of always saying that's wrong, "no" to pointing out the positives instead. As humans, whether at home or work, we naturally will stive to do more for those pats on the back. It's a method I feel that is set up as a win win situation.
I would not pigion hole to say this program is for visual learners. I think we would short change it if we did. Sometimes we get lucky and just get a plain 'ol good teacher (in this case it's the method).
Having said that, if there's one thing I have learned in 12 years of homeschooling, there is no magic bullet. TT comes pretty close to it though..
You and your kids will enjoy the difference.
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Yes, Mary, that's it!
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I just ordered TT Algebra I tonight. Thanks ladies, for all the glowing reviews.
My dd did Saxon Algebra 1/2 in 7th grade, and was a solid B+ student. But in 8th grade when she hit Saxon Algebra I (even WITH the DIVE cds) she spiraled down to an F pretty fast. She took an online math class the next year, but by then she believed she didn't have a head for math, and she flunked AGAIN. (Then she took a summer school class at the local high school, and passed Algebra 1 with an A!!! NOw she is taking Geometry 1 at the same high school, and 6 weeks into the year, has a 100% average!!!)
Now my ds is going down the same path. He did Saxon Algebra 1/2 last year, and was a solid A student. This year, 8th grade, he is on lesson 20 of Saxon Algebra I and getting a D. I KNOW it's not the kids at this point. It MUST be Saxon. Something happens in the leap between Algebra 1/2 and Algebra I. I don't want him to get a math block like his sister had, so I am going to quit beating a dead horse and switch to TT Algebra I. Hopefully, that means he can pick up geometry over the summer or as a freshman.
Thanks again!
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Yes, I agree with Macmom. The kids were really solid in math until Saxon Algebra I. I have Teaching Textbooks Prealgebra and Algebra and I LOVE THEM and my children love them:)
We call the teachers the Harvard Boys. Sometimes the kids will say, "Mom, the Harvard Boys are cool, they really know how to explain things!"
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My youngest dd is doing Math 7 and she prefers to use the DVD, but allows for the possibility that at some point she may decide to use the book exclusively. Personally, I think she likes the idea that she can choose how to do her lesson.
My son is doing Pre-calculus. The DVD for this will not be available until Fall 2008 (at least that's the target date), so he is doing it all from the book. Actually, the book isn't really being sent out until mid-October, but they have put the lessons online. (Yes, there is a substantial price reduction from the $184 that the full course with DVD would sell for. The book and answers are being sold for $65). He is printing them off and doing them that way. Having *suffered* through Saxon, he is thrilled. It seems that Saxon doesn't always let you know when it is making certain assumptions, nor does it truly explain every step. This is much more a problem as the courses advance. You don't really notice it in the elementary grades, but from Algebra 1/2, things get compounded with each additional book. DS is very appreciative that the TT is truly setting things out and he's not needing to come to me or dh to get the logical blanks filled in.
We heartily endorse TT!
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Mari,
How much review is there in Algebra I from Pre-algerbra? I called TT and asked how much review is in Pre-algerbra from TT7. I was told half. I know one of the differences between TT and others is that they really take their time in concepts and then keep them for review as opposed to -here it is once, then review what you quite didn't get.
Our eldest is going through TT7 (she should be in Algebra at her age). Because she struggled the past few years not understanding math (Saxon), we wanted her to feel immidiate success. She has and absolutely loves doing math now. We (her included) wants to have the option to take the PSAT. She is too far behind in math presently to do that. I'm thinking of a couple of options:
A. Let her finish TT7 (her brother is doing it as well). Start Pre-algebra in the middle and go on to Alg. I and so on.
B. Jump from TT7 and go directly to Pre-algebra. After completing Pre-algebra, go to the middle of Alg. I and so on.
C. Go directly to Pre-algebra and finish the rest of the courses as written.
She and her brother sincerly enjoy their math lessons. They understand it. They look forward to it daily (even on Saturdays). I want her to continue to enjoy math and at the same time have the opportunity to finish high school as she would like. My guess is the review is of the second half of TT7 (which we have not reached yet) is the first part of Pre-algebra.
Option B will help us catch-up but will it be too much?
Thanks for any help.
Linda
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cfa83 wrote:
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Linda, thank you for the info! I am hoping it makes a difference with them this year, esp. the younger one, who has disliked math so much.
And I assume, when you (and Nancy) say "DVD" you mean the CDs that TT sells - they are used on the computer, not the DVD player with the TV, right?
I, at least, am looking forward to math this year! I think.
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Tami -
Yes, DVD really means CD. I am just barely computer literate, so when I see sound and picture, I call it a DVD. That's not strictly accurate.
Peace,
Nancy
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Thanks, Nancy. I was thinking how my dh would be laughing if he saw my question. I don't understand this stuff too well, either. Why can't a CD that has pictures on the computer work like a DVD on the television.....?? Makes no sense to me!
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It is so hard to try to catch up in math by skipping things. There are placement tests on the Teaching Textbook site. The prealgebra is really a lot of basic math skills for the first half. But this makes the program so strong.
I have used this program along with Saxon and it has really helped.(I only did this because we were enrolled in Seton Home Study last year and it was too hard to follow in the TTalgebra and take Saxon tests.)
This year we are on our own and really loving TT.
Maybe your daughter could do the second half of TTpre(if her basic math skills are strong) and then move to TTAlgebra? Then move to the geometry.
Then still review Algebra while doing geometry?
For the SAT i think you need to know Algebra I and Geometry.
TTAlgebra I Idoes not introduce quadratic equations so make sure she reviews that from TTAlgebra 2:)
Hope this helps to give you an idea of at least where to start.
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I think I will give that a try. I will let her complete TT7 and see if she does alright skipping the reviews in Pre-Alg. That is one of the beauties of this program though...the reviews.
Ultimately, I will keep her on a comfortable course. She is so much happier understanding math. It has become a story to her now (I never read out that book! ).
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The will be our first year with Teaching Textbooks as well. The comment above about going from not like Math to liking is has me pretty hopeful!
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Elizabeth Founder
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Mari,
In the pre-algebra, can they do the problem on the computer and have the computer grade and go back and explain and show problems attempted etc, the way they do in TT 7? Am I making any sense?
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Elizabeth wrote:
In the pre-algebra, can they do the problem on the computer and have the computer grade and go back and explain and show problems attempted etc, the way they do in TT 7? |
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I think I understand what you are asking, Elizabeth, and the answer is no. You watch the lessons on the computer, and you can watch the solution to each problem worked out by the instructor on the computer, but the work by the student is done on paper. There is an answer key book for grading, which is done by the student or the parent.
Algebra I is the same.
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