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Posted: March 12 2007 at 12:01pm | IP Logged
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I have five children that have learned to read, but I am still not sure of how far to teach phonics.
My three younger readers, ds9, dd7 and dd5, all learned to read quickly with Explode the Code. By the time they finished book 2, they were reading chapter books. They also do CHC spelling books, and ds9 is doing grade 3 grammar as well.
Is it necessary to continue with phonics books when a child is reading well? Wouldn't the spelling books serve to fill in any gaps as far as various sounds and spelling rules?
They enjoy doing the Explode the Code, so it isn't that it would be a problem to keep them doing the whole series. It is more of a financial issue and frankly, I don't want to waste their time, even on busy work they enjoy.
Thanks.
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Molly
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hylabrook1 Forum Moderator
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Posted: March 12 2007 at 1:17pm | IP Logged
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Molly -
I am not a teacher, so there may be a technical reason that I am not aware of for continuing to teach phonics. I mean, I am a teacher I've just never taken an education course.
Okay, so this is just my opinion based on observation. I think phonics is a tool, not an end in itself. It is useful for teaching reading and spelling. When reading and spelling have been learned, phonics has served its purpose and can be discontinued. There are times when some sort of phonics reminder comes up in a spelling lesson, but once someone is reading well I would think that means they know the phonics rules and are able to apply them to the task of reading. Mission accomplished!
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Nancy
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Karen E. Forum All-Star
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hylabrook1 wrote:
I think phonics is a tool, not an end in itself. It is useful for teaching reading and spelling. When reading and spelling have been learned, phonics has served its purpose and can be discontinued. |
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I agree! I wouldn't keep up workbooks that they don't really need, if they're reading fluently.
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Here's a question. Is there a book out there that writes out the phonics rules? We use alphaphonics and am using Little Stores for Little Folks (I think that's the name of CHC's program). Anyway, my oldest autistic child would love to have the rules written out so that he can bring out each specific rule when he encounters it. Clear as mud?
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Posted: March 30 2007 at 2:00pm | IP Logged
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I think Mari McAllister's (sp?) Nuts and Bolts Guide to Writing the Road to Reading, comes with a laminated spelling rules list. Of course Writing the Road to reading has all the spelling rules listed too... I like Mari's handy sheet
I have used MCP phonics this year to help with phonics it is nice because it focuses more on writing with phonics and all the rules like contractions, -ing, -ed, plurals and singulars, etc in it. It has been helpful for ds in both his writing and reading.
just my .02
Alison
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Posted: March 30 2007 at 3:57pm | IP Logged
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The more advanced Explode the Code books are actually more "decoding" books than phonics books. My older dc are fluent readers but we have continued with them. However, if it is more a financial decision then might I suggest buying the teacher guides for the upper grades (there are two levels in each teacher ed.) and just review the material orally with your dc. You could definitely get by without doing them at all but it's just an idea.
HTH,
Therese
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BrendaPeter Forum All-Star
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Posted: March 31 2007 at 6:35am | IP Logged
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I would say it depends on the child. If they are still not spelling well, I would stick with the phonics for awhile. I didn't do that with my oldest & wish I had.
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Erin Forum Moderator
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Posted: March 31 2007 at 8:06am | IP Logged
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I second Brenda's comment. I am now doing intensive work on phonics to improve the spelling of all of my dc. It is working However that is not to say that you have to do it now, you could re-visit phonics once they are writing frequently, or you find their spelling is holding them back from writing. It doesn't have to be a book approach it can be fun. I wrote a post about how we make it fun here recently.
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