Oh, Dearest Mother, Sweetest Virgin of Altagracia, our Patroness. You are our Advocate and to you we recommend our needs. You are our Teacher and like disciples we come to learn from the example of your holy life. You are our Mother, and like children, we come to offer you all of the love of our hearts. Receive, dearest Mother, our offerings and listen attentively to our supplications. Amen.



Active Topics || Favorites || Member List || Search || About Us || Help || Register || Login
Exploring God's Creation in Nature and Science
 4Real Forums : Exploring God's Creation in Nature and Science
Subject Topic: Define: farm, garden, hobby farm Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
Mary G
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5790
Posted: Jan 15 2009 at 5:27pm | IP Logged Quote Mary G

Hope springs eternal , so I'm hoping otto have that house sold in Colorado and be able to buy a house here in Virginia. We're looking at either an in-town or a bit out with some land (<= 3 acres).

In researching how to live a self-sufficient life on the "farm" (that is, growing our own vegetables, maybe some chickens, but trying to live off the land as much as possible) ... it's so hard to find books that don't assume a farm is a business or a garden is just a little bit here and there.

So, how would you define the difference between a home-garden and a farm? Is it the business aspect or the size or what?

What books would you recommend I read for living on 3 acres or less when what we're trying to do is give the kids the realization that food can be grown (not only purchased at the market), give them a chance at hard-work/physical labor rather than just sitting in front of the computer/tv. But the "farm" wouldn't be a source of income (at least for the foreseeable future) but more for us to live off as much as possible.

__________________
MaryG
3 boys (22, 12, 8)2 girls (20, 11)

my website that combines my schooling, hand-knits work, writing and everything else in one spot!
Back to Top View Mary G's Profile Search for other posts by Mary G Visit Mary G's Homepage
 
JodieLyn
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: Sept 06 2006
Location: Oregon
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 12234
Posted: Jan 15 2009 at 10:40pm | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

home garden (or I call it a "back yard garden" ) generally fits on a reasonable size town lot with space left over for your lawn.

farm - to me that's growing "fields" of things

garden (or kitchen garden) that's on a farm/ranch/acreage (small or large) - to me generally means that you have enough space that you can grow everything your familiy needs (that it's reasonably possible to grow) in the way of veggies.

__________________
Jodie, wife to Dave
G-18, B-17, G-15, G-14, B-13, B-11, G-9, B-7, B-5, B-4

All men who have turned out worth anything have had the chief hand in their own education.
-Sir Walter Scott
Back to Top View JodieLyn's Profile Search for other posts by JodieLyn
 
Mary G
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5790
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 5:44am | IP Logged Quote Mary G

Jodie -- thanks for answering. I've edited my original post a bit (as well as the header) to make myself clearer.

What I'm asking is how would you term what we want to do ... we don't want to get into income-generating farming, but become self-sufficient as much as we can ... we want the kids to be outside more than in ... with chores and land and space .... fresh veggies and fruit and honey ...

Kind of a "little house" experience in the 21st century.

But what would you call this life-style...how can I find books, articles, magazines about living this way?

__________________
MaryG
3 boys (22, 12, 8)2 girls (20, 11)

my website that combines my schooling, hand-knits work, writing and everything else in one spot!
Back to Top View Mary G's Profile Search for other posts by Mary G Visit Mary G's Homepage
 
CrunchyMom
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: Sept 03 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6385
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 6:32am | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Isn't "homesteading" more the term you are looking for? I must admit, I am a bit ignorant of all the vocabulary on all this, but most of the people I know of who describe themselves as aiming to be as self-sufficient as possible call themselves that. There are lots of blogs, articles, magazines, books, etc... on that topic.

__________________
Lindsay
Five Boys(6/04) (6/06) (9/08)(3/11),(7/13), and 1 girl (5/16)
My Symphony

[URL=http://mysymphonygarden.blogspot.com/]Lost in the Cosmos[/UR
Back to Top View CrunchyMom's Profile Search for other posts by CrunchyMom
 
Mary G
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5790
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 6:48am | IP Logged Quote Mary G

Thank Lindsay ... I'll try that term!

__________________
MaryG
3 boys (22, 12, 8)2 girls (20, 11)

my website that combines my schooling, hand-knits work, writing and everything else in one spot!
Back to Top View Mary G's Profile Search for other posts by Mary G Visit Mary G's Homepage
 
Maddie
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Dec 27 2005
Location: N/A
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1804
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 7:21am | IP Logged Quote Maddie

Encyclopedia for Country Living is a wonderful source for homesteading ideas.

__________________
~Maddie~
Wife to my dh and Momma of 9 dear ones
Back to Top View Maddie's Profile Search for other posts by Maddie
 
crusermom
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star


Joined: Aug 09 2007
Location: New Jersey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 878
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 7:25am | IP Logged Quote crusermom

Hi Mary,

Countryside Magazine and Backwoods Magazine are two that come to mind. There is a book called Barnyard in your Backyard. Any of the Storey books on goats, chickens, et. They have tons of information for the newbie. They are usually at the library.

There is even a Hobby Farm magazine that I pick up once in awhile.

Most of my help came from getting my kids involved in 4-H. There I met real live people that were doing it and were willing to help me out.

Unfortunately, we had to leave our 10 acres are now stuck in a subdivision due to an Army move. I am like you, as soon as our house sells I am all over getting some more property, a couple goat, chickens, again. It is a very addicting lifestyle and the children really miss it.

Mary

__________________
Mary

Army wife and Crusermom to 8 wonderful children!
Back to Top View crusermom's Profile Search for other posts by crusermom
 
missionfamily
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: April 10 2007
Location: Louisiana
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1859
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 8:43am | IP Logged Quote missionfamily

Mary--Microfarming is another buzzword that may pull up some good info for you. Also, This book is a nice read for what you're trying to accomplish. I'm just getting ready to put in a book order with spring in mind...I'll let you know what I find helpful.

__________________
Colleen
dh Greg
mom to Quinn,Gabriel, Brendan,Evan, Kolbe, and sweet St. Bryce

Footprints on the Fridge
Back to Top View missionfamily's Profile Search for other posts by missionfamily Visit missionfamily's Homepage
 
Mary G
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Feb 07 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5790
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 11:06am | IP Logged Quote Mary G

Colleen -- a case of "great minds" and all that ... I'm actually reading One Acre right now! I love the way he writes (even if his writing in the 70s points out just how much more expensive everything is now!

__________________
MaryG
3 boys (22, 12, 8)2 girls (20, 11)

my website that combines my schooling, hand-knits work, writing and everything else in one spot!
Back to Top View Mary G's Profile Search for other posts by Mary G Visit Mary G's Homepage
 
JodieLyn
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar

Joined: Sept 06 2006
Location: Oregon
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 12234
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 1:11pm | IP Logged Quote JodieLyn

Oh yeah... homesteading.. also self-reliant living

__________________
Jodie, wife to Dave
G-18, B-17, G-15, G-14, B-13, B-11, G-9, B-7, B-5, B-4

All men who have turned out worth anything have had the chief hand in their own education.
-Sir Walter Scott
Back to Top View JodieLyn's Profile Search for other posts by JodieLyn
 
St. Ann
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star


Joined: Oct 20 2006
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2137
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 1:21pm | IP Logged Quote St. Ann

I just wanted to post this link to:


Home in Stead

They have tons of experience.

__________________
Stephanie

Wife and mother to Hannah '96, Maria '99, Dorothea '01, Helena '03
Back to Top View St. Ann's Profile Search for other posts by St. Ann Visit St. Ann's Homepage
 
lilac hill
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Feb 15 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 643
Posted: Jan 16 2009 at 4:08pm | IP Logged Quote lilac hill

Lots of terms but you "can" call it whatever you want to.
You "can" do whatever you are zoned for so check that out.
You can also try what you like and change what you do over time.

At the feed store I am not a farmer becasue I do not have a tax id number (is not a large % of our income) but this moring when I was carrying warm water to my frozen barn I felt like a farmer (or is a hobbiest since I only have 2 cows, 4 goats and 3 sheep to carry for?)

Cornell( http://chla.library.cornell.edu/)has a great library online . Those old books for online reading seem to understand that I am rearing a few animals and not 50, that I am raising 10 not 100 tomato plants. I find much more indepth info to add to the gardening, animal husbandry books that I can find at the library. I also like the livestock forums at the Homesteading Today board, a yahoo group for yard poultry, and currently reading Eliot Coleman's stuff on extneding our growing season. It is like homeschooling-pick a topic and look for plenty of resources to find info that explains your level of intensity.

Viv


__________________
Viv
Wife to Rick (7/83), Mom to dd#1(6/87), dd#2(1/90), and dd#3(6/94) in central PA.
Back to Top View lilac hill's Profile Search for other posts by lilac hill
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  [Add this topic to My Favorites] Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Hosting and Support provided by theNetSmith.com