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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 3:54pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM
Supposing, just supposing, you had a front garden with azalea bushes, a rose bush, several lavender plants, dianthus, some spearmint, Black eyed Susans, some seedlings of various flowers and some annuals. No pesticides or chemical fertilizers are being used, just organic soil.

Then suppose your lawn starts creeping into said front garden, and crab grass appears. And then all of sudden a bottle of chemical herbicide to remove said crab grass appears in someone's hands.

And then suppose a week later you notice ALL your seedlings died, and lots of other plants (including azaleas) half dead or dying. When further questioning the person with the bottle, supposedly the label said it won't kill other plants, only crab grass. And since it was so "safe" said bottle's contents was sprayed EVERYWHERE. But now everything in the front garden is dead or dying.

So, now that I posed a hypothetical situation, here's my hypothetical question. Can one replant things in said front garden, now that it has been probably highly treated with chemicals? How long does herbicide stay in the soil? No weeds have regrown in these areas...so I'm thinking it's pretty potent.

I also think that the gardener of this hypothetical garden has a lot of digging up to do this fall.
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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 4:16pm | IP Logged Quote PDyer
Oh Jenn I'm sorry. I think it depends on the type of herbicide (pre-emergent or post-emergent) and what the active ingredient is.

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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 4:37pm | IP Logged Quote Maryan
Oh... I have no answers. But it's so hard to watch plants die.

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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 4:59pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM
PDyer wrote:
Oh Jenn I'm sorry. I think it depends on the type of herbicide (pre-emergent or post-emergent) and what the active ingredient is.


If it was this kind? I can't tell if it's preemergent.
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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 5:25pm | IP Logged Quote PDyer
Jenn, given the amount of time you may end up spending digging I would go straight to Bayer's customer service and ask them. here's a link..

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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 5:41pm | IP Logged Quote lapazfarm
Oh, dear.Looks like you've sprayed a broad-spectrum herbicide on your garden. Not good. These things kill pretty indescriminately and the one you sprayed looks like it is targeted to kill everything except lawn grasses.
I was looking at the label online and it says:

• Keep product spray off plants growing in or around the lawn such as
trees, shrubs, flowers, perennials, groundcovers, vegetables, & herbs.

I can't help you with how long you'll need to wait to re-plant.
Good luck.

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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 5:56pm | IP Logged Quote JennGM
lapazfarm wrote:
Oh, dear.Looks like you've sprayed a broad-spectrum herbicide on your garden. Not good. These things kill pretty indescriminately and the one you sprayed looks like it is targeted to kill everything except lawn grasses.
I was looking at the label online and it says:

• Keep product spray off plants growing in or around the lawn such as
trees, shrubs, flowers, perennials, groundcovers, vegetables, & herbs.

I can't help you with how long you'll need to wait to re-plant.
Good luck.


Not pointing fingers, but I really wasn't the culprit. I don't like touching that stuff. Sigh. The person apologized, and admitting to not reading closely.

Thanks, Theresa for the help. I'll write to Bayer, Patty and see if they can give advice. It doesn't look hopeful, does it?
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Posted: Aug 20 2008 at 8:09pm | IP Logged Quote PDyer
JennGM wrote:
It doesn't look hopeful, does it?


I wish I could find something online that I could make heads or tails of. I tried...

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Posted: Aug 21 2008 at 2:17am | IP Logged Quote Carole N.
Jenn, I am so sorry! Your garden was so beautiful!
Wish I could come and help with the digging!

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Posted: Aug 21 2008 at 9:04pm | IP Logged Quote Mackfam
Oh no, Jenn. A broad spectrum herbicide.

I suppose the bright side is that now you have plenty of time to start planning your new Mary Garden, complete with lovely gazing pond for next spring? So sorry about the turn of events. We have invasive bermuda grass here - I hate, hate, hate it!

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Posted: Aug 22 2008 at 10:12am | IP Logged Quote JennGM
Mackfam wrote:
Oh no, Jenn. A broad spectrum herbicide.

I suppose the bright side is that now you have plenty of time to start planning your new Mary Garden, complete with lovely gazing pond for next spring?


No pond, but yes, it is a good opportunity to revamp. Just hoping to find the time and energy. It's nice when I don't have to think about the front.
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