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Posted: June 08 2007 at 2:16pm | IP Logged
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I am fuming right now!!
I took Emily to the ER on Sunday for abdominal pain, nausea, and vomiting. They did blood work only, said it was probably an ovarian cyst and sent her home saying it would go away in 24 hours.
The pain came and went over the next few days and yesterday she woke up with it worse than ever and vomiting again so I took her back to the ER.
The Dr was a jerk and insisted on doing a pelvic exam before anything else. We refused, requesting ultrasound and other tests before something that invasive. She is only 15 and has never had a pelvic. He refused and told us to leave. I refused to leave and wanted the U/S but he threatened to call the police so we left AMA noting his refusal to do the U/S.
We immediately went to the other hospital in town where the did the U/S and a bunch of other tests - but NOT a pelvic. They still don't know what is wrong but they are working on it and respecting her rights.
Today Social Services knocked on our door with an anonymous call citing medical neglect. They said it was an "unknown mother" at my address with my phone number - yeah a stranger would know my phone number.
I am so angry with that doctor! I spent an hour at the front door explaining what happened, giving them all kinds of private information about my children, and trying to defend myself against baseless accusations! I know they didn't find cause but it will still take at least 30 days to close this out.
This is the second time a doctor has done this to me because I didn't agree with them. It is our right to refuse any test or treatment and they should not be allowed to get away with this type of harrassment.
Please pray that this is resolved quickly without further intrusion into our privacy, that the doctor realizes that it was a juvenille act and that he won't do it to anyone else, and that I can let go of this quickly and forgive him.
Thank you!
Blessings,
Krisann
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MaryM Board Moderator
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 2:25pm | IP Logged
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Praying, Krisann. This angers me also - how can some medical folks work so to undermine the parent's rights? You were well within your rights to opt for less traumatic diagnosis methods first!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 2:33pm | IP Logged
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Oh goodness I am so sorry you are going through this. What an awful ordeal and violation of your parental rights! I will pray for peace in your family and for this issue to resolve promptly. That whole 30 day stinks! I will also pray for your daughters health.
__________________ Lisa, wife to Tony,
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 2:46pm | IP Logged
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Praying for you and your family - I am so sorry you have to go through this!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 2:58pm | IP Logged
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How horrifying - I am so sorry. Prayers for you all.
__________________ Mary- Wife to Mike and Mother to Austin(92), Mikey(95), R.J.(97), Benedict(98), Kolbe(00), Ignatius(02), Christian(03), Margaret(05),&4 angels in heaven
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shartlesville Forum All-Star
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:04pm | IP Logged
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I just talked to the patient rep and she said it is hospital policy to call CPS if a parent refuses tests or treatment!!!
I told her that policy changes today or I am going public - newspapers, tv, everything. I am SO upset about this!!
They are deliberately going behind parents backs and undermining their families.
Pray hard!!
Blessings,
Krisann
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Lisbet Forum All-Star
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:07pm | IP Logged
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Ya know what Krisann, that policy is crap. (excuse my language!) We refused so many tests and procedures when our Molly was in the NICU. It drove the hospital staff crazy, but no one called CPS. (that I am aware of!) I don't blame you one bit for being upset, it is infuriating! I will pray for whatever you do from here.
__________________ Lisa, wife to Tony,
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Gabe, 13
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:10pm | IP Logged
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Krisann,
Praying for your dd and you. I hope you make a change.
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:22pm | IP Logged
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What an ordeal. Praying here.
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:39pm | IP Logged
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You poor thing. You're right, the doc is a jerk. I hope this gets resolved soon.
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:41pm | IP Logged
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Praying and praying!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:54pm | IP Logged
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Good grief. The right to refuse treatment is on all those papers they make you sign. I'll definitely pray for you in this situation!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 3:55pm | IP Logged
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That is terrible! I promise to pray!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 4:20pm | IP Logged
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Praying, how infuriating!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 4:29pm | IP Logged
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That is unreal! Hospital policy that goes against the patients' rights like that has got to be unethical! Stick to your guns and go public if you have to ! Praying for a good resolution to this!
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Posted: June 08 2007 at 4:30pm | IP Logged
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How awful that you're having to go through this, on top of your daughter being ill. I'll pray for you both and for a positive resolution to this situation.
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Praying ... cannot believe that you are having to go through this!
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This is unbelievable! I am praying for your family. How scary. I imagine this is a prime opportunity for the tempter to come in and steal your family peace - I'm storming the heavens that that doesn't happen! Praying as well for your daughter and for a resolution for this situation. Keep us updated!
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I'm so sorry about this. We went through this with Social Services not too long ago. My neighbors accused us of child neglect because our kids are "too skiny." I know how scary having SS come to your door can be. I will pray that this gets resolved quickly with no more trouble, and I will keep your daughter in my prayers.
God bless you.
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Krisann...how much time do you have on your hands? If you have time, this is something that can be brought to the CEO of the hospital. You need to provide direct questions and expect clear answers. For example, "Why did a male care-provider insist on a pelvic exam when his peers at another hospital used less invasive procedures?" You can look up the hosptial's Mission Statement and find their "Quality Care" words, such as a desire to provide "patient sensitive" care. How was this "patient sensitive?" If they actually have a policy to report all parents who refuse specific care, does this include the parent who refuses to give a child Tylenol? In other words, this type of policy most likely has guidelines for consideration that actually weighs risks and benefits (unless a care provider doesn't want to bother.) What about the right of parents to make informed decisions and choices? Why weren't you made plainly aware of this policy (most hospitals have important stuff like this posted in obvious places.) If the community finds out that parents will be reported to CPS for any and all refusal of treatment...who would risk going there?
Make sure to be clear about what you want as an outcome...do you want a written apology? a change in policy? a lawsuit? And let them know. Personally, our family would go after the care-provider. We would be a squeaky wheel and dig and dig, assuming that this can't possibly be the first time this care-provider has been questioned by a "customer."
Brings me back for a walk down memory lane...when my first baby was a few weeks old, she decided not to nurse one day (nursing strike) for what we would eventually figure out was her dislike of garlic (eaten by me.) Well, we thought she might have thrush and needed to go to the ER to get a treatment (newbie parent thinking) and the next thing I know, the ER doc. is recommending a...spinal tap! We asked why (no symptoms like fever, etc.) He was the most arrogant man, treated us like dirt, bullied us, then I freaked out! I took my baby and left. Eventually, I got hold of her records, read his report, and it showed his writing in big, bold, letters "HYSTERICAL MOTHER!" Well, I wear that label as a badge of courage, now. Don't get me wrong...there is no one more grateful for appropriate and timely medical care. But, there are too many providers that are unable or unwilling to deliver this type of care. My husband and I are ultimately responsible for making decisions that affect our child. Period.
I know you have a lot on your plate right now. Please take care of yourself as you discern what you and God need to do.
Love,
__________________ Angie Mc
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