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Caroline
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Okay, so my 2.5 year old ds is starting to get the concept of "poop" and "pee". He will sometimes announce "poop" after he has soiled his diaper. So I think he's ready to at least be introduced to potty training. Our problem is that he refuses to sit on his potty (or the big potty). He will throw a fit if we even suggest he try (without a diaper, he's happy to sit on it with a diaper).
So, does anyone have any suggestions? Is this a sign that he's not as ready as I think? Any help and advice would be wonderful!
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I would think not as ready as you think he is. Recognizing after the fact usually comes before recognizing when he needs to go anyway.. which can make potty training frustrating with lots of accidents.
I tend to just keep 'em in diapers until they're pretty much telling me they want to use the potty. Though I will offer the option earlier. We just had a trial run with my 3.5 yr old boy (and for us boys definately train later) and he wasn't near as interested as he seemed. I put him back in diapers and will wait until this winter when dh is home and he can take over.. my boys seem to respond better to daddy for this. 
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I would second the fact that he may not be ready. You can't force him.
It will happen. Back off completely for two or more weeks, not even mentioning it and then try again. When kids go through a contradictory stage, you'll get NOWHERE. It will pass.
Some kids get really scared for some reason. That might be an issue.
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Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to force him. I just needed expert opinions on how to interpret this latest signal.
And the sitting on the potty thing is very casual. As in, "hey you're just out of the bath, want to sit on the potty?". The answer is no. But if I'm on the potty and he's fully clothed then he will happily sit on his potty. I just want to clarify that we're not forcing him. 
Thanks for the advice!
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i think if they know they need a diaper change, that they are ready. all of mine potty trained around 2 and none were forced.
i'd let him sit on the potty fully clothed if he wanted. at that age, my kids were always wanting to be naked and i used that to my advantage. it's easier to figure out that one has to pee if they are naked. i think it's important for the kid to see themselves going to the bathroom and connecting that with the feeling, kwim? if you can time a bowel movement to being on the potty, you are almost home. this method does take a while - it's not one of those weekend potty training methods, but it does work.
good luck!
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No, it doesn't sound like forcing to me. It sounds like modeling which is one of the key elements to helping a child to potty.
I admit it, I don't potty train. This wasn't a thought-out decision, just one of practicality. When my first was ready to use the toilet (we did have a potty available,) she was young and literally decided to use the toilet before I even had underwear for her. Fits her personality to a T! The boys came next and they were in no hurry one way or another. During each prime training time, our family was immersed in relocations. After visits to the bathroom with dad, and once they stopped wetting through the nights, after their third birthday sometime, they just did it.
In retrospect, I'm glad that I didn't have the physical home consistency or time to put into formal potty training. Now I'm comfortable and confident to let each child pace themselves with minimal direction or conversation from me or dad. Phew...I have a lot of other things that I need to direct and converse about with my children!
Best wishes, Caroline, as you find the best way to proceed for your family. You sound like you are doing just great!
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I'm with Angie as far as not formally doing "potty training". When the child began to notice or ask to be changed, I began to make comments like, "Now doesn't that feel better not to have poop or pee on your bottom!" When I needed to use the facilities, I would comment, "Excuse me, now.. Mommy has to go use the toilet because I don't wear diapers. My bottom stays nice and clean because I make my poop and pee in the toilet. You might want to do that, too." When I share that with you all, it sounds so ridiculous! But, really, how else does a child know what you are doing in the bathroom or why? I also did the thing about inviting them to sit on the potty when they were otherwise naked. Maybe if a sibling did this as well, and you and they "talked it up", including the idea that it is good and not scary, it would help. Or if you showed how the pot could be removed from under the seat, but that the seat was intact and safe to sit on (like nobody is going to fall through). You just never know what is going through a child's head when something seems to freak them out.
For my dc, moving out of diapers was always a months long process. Eventually the child makes the decision and then they're out of diapers and you forget how gradual the process was.
Hope this helps at least a little.
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Oh, I forgot to add that this all happened anywhere between 2 and 4 for my children; even though they all seemed to understand the notion by 2, they were not necessarily ready to "deal with it."
Nancy
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My oldest was by far the easiest the to "potty-train." Being my first, and my "guinea pig ," I really didn't know any better. So, when my fried said she was starting her son, who was only a month older than mine, I thought, well, I guess I will too.
He was 2yrs and 10 mos. I simply said, starting today, you will go potty and poop in the toilet, and that was it! He said ok, and it was that simple! Boy was I in for a surprise with 2nd ds!
My 2nd was the type who could be running and "going" at the same time, and never stopped, as if he didn't even notice! (1rst ds would hide behind the couch when it was "that time.")
From 2nd ds on, they were roughly 3 or 4 before they "potty-trained." I am much more laid back with each additional ds (I think!) If they show an interest, great, and if not, well, eventually they will!
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