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Posted: April 12 2005 at 8:01pm | IP Logged Quote Elizabeth

After being utterly frustrated with the translator of the funeral Mass, I've reversed my opinion on the necessity of Latin . I've always held that Latin roots were enough (and we did a whole lot of Latin roots). Now, I have at least one child (Patrick-10) who feels deprived of his cultural heritage because he didn't know enough Latin to understand the Mass in Latin. So...we'll begin with Prima Latina (except for Michael who actually did make it all the way through Latina Christiana) and I will thank the dear Lord that there are now DVDs. I'm hoping this will do for Latin what MUS did for Math...this just gets easier and easier

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Posted: April 12 2005 at 8:46pm | IP Logged Quote BrendaPeter

Hi Elizabeth,

This past Sunday at Mass, the choir sang a latin hymm. My husband & I loved it and told someone in the choir. She explained how upset she is that they don't teach latin in the Catholic schools anymore. Her daughter goes to a Catholic high school and will get just one year of it in 12th grade. She also mentioned that she teaches at a Jewish day school and that the little ones learn Hebrew right from the beginning. Maybe that's another reason why God has so many of us homeschooling -to keep the latin language alive! I'm truly overwhelmed at times by what God wants all of us to do -i.e. cultivate a truly Catholic culture - but I'm seeing preserving the latin language as a big part of it.

Thanks for your thoughts. I hope it goes well with this new learning adventure! This is a great link from Catholic CM: http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~wcd/Latin.htm

(Sorry I haven't figured out the link stuff yet!)

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Posted: April 12 2005 at 9:45pm | IP Logged Quote Natalia

The DVDs really made a different around here. Last year my dd struggle through LC 1 and even though I could help her some with my knowledge of Spanish, it wasn't enough for her to get it. This year we did the same course but with the DVD and she really got this time.

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Speaking of keeping Latin alive, there is a very interesting group called "Familia Sancti Jeronimii"--Family of Saint Jerome---that is dedicated to preserving Latin, especially spoken Latin. It is the brain child of an old monk who has put together a text and tapes on spoken Latin. It was actually developed for people who haven't had any Latin. It's not a course, per se, and utilizes lots of repetition to get the phraseology thru your head. Definitely NOT a sexy program, but I have to say, I like it. There's a website on the group, you all might want to check it out. There are chapters for FSJ all over the place. My 15yo ds and 12yo dd and I attend a chapter of it at the most liberal college you can imagine, gradeless New College in Florida, yet it has a devoted following of serious college kids (in their Save-the-Whales shirts) who get together weekly to practice speaking Church Latin! It's fun, and as far as I can tell, completely faithful to the Magisterium, no hidden agenda. Lots of phrases and parts of prayers,too, as well as references to God, thrown into the tapes and book. There is no cost to attend, only the price of the book and tapes ($67), which we share. Attending this has been a HUGE boon to my children's pronounciation of Latin. Something about hearing it spoken conversationally that really seems to make a difference. Oh, and there's no homework, either, unless you consider listening to the tapes in your car to be "homework"

I have also heard that FSJ sponsors a yearly Latin Cenacle that meets for a week in various places in the world: basically they have a week-long Retreat, all in Latin. I have friends who have attended it with their children in locales ranging from Tampa, FL, to Costa Rica, to Vienna, Austria! They keep going back, so they obviously have enjoyed it.

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Posted: April 14 2005 at 7:12am | IP Logged Quote guitarnan

The Junior Classical League has a good website; some parts of it are pretty advanced. They use the "classical" pronunciation as opposed to the "Church" pronunciation; this is important if you ever want to participate in their activities.

My dh was part of JCL as a teen and loved it. He had his own toga, which he wore to Latin debates and banquets. I'm glad Kelly has told us all about FSJ...I'd never heard of it, but it sounds like great fun!

My ds learns Latin off and on (aka When Dad is Home). He really enjoys it. My dd likes Latin when it's set to music, so she knows the Pater Noster, Sanctus, etc. Ds is finally starting to see the benefit of knowing some Latin roots when he runs across English words he doesn't know.

Now, if we could just make math facts as interesting as Latin vocab...

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So funny this just came up. I just ordered Prima Latina, including the DVDs. I will begin during the summer with them. We are planning a lot of car trips this summer )LOOOOOOOOONg car trips and I like having educational DVDs. We can do some Latin lessons and then maybe listen to some chants.

I went to a private Catholic girls high school. The year I graduated they were beginning to require Latin for the incoming freshman. The year after I graduated St. John's they finally hired a Latin professor. I kept missing the boat! As an English major I would have really benefitted from any Latin I could have aquired.

I look forward to learning right along with the children.

PS - Kelly I think we need to see a picture of you in that toga

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Posted: April 14 2005 at 9:11pm | IP Logged Quote Kelly

MEBarrett wrote:


PS - Kelly I think we need to see a picture of you in that toga


How do you say in Latin, "Not on your tin-type!" ?

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