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I have become a big fan of Tasha Tudor and Beatrix Potter. Are there others like them? I love the oldness of time. I love that time period.
My life is starting to encompass them. I found Tasha Tudor last summer/early fall and when we got a puppy I named her Tasha Tudor. I know I am corny....
But I would love to know if there are other writers, illustrators out there like them?
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I like Kay Chorao- her book Little Farm by the Sea
is one of my very favorites.
I also like Jan Brett. Whenever I look at her pictures I think: sumptuous detail.
I see something new each time.
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Another illustrator that you might like is Eloise Wilkin. She illustrated a lot of the old Golden Books.
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I have really been looking into this. I don't know what the fascination is..... But I also came across the author of Little Bear and the illustrator for that one as well. Else Holmelund Minarik is the author and Maurice Sendak is the illustrator.
I yearn for wholeness and simplicity. I think that is what is drawing me in....
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And I do love Jan Brett too!
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Christine wrote:
Another illustrator that you might like is Eloise Wilkin. She illustrated a lot of the old Golden Books. |
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I was coming to suggest the same exact one.
I love Eloise Wilkin's illustrations. Her sister Esther also wrote and illustrated, and they worked together on a few Catholic books.
The Brambley Hedge series by Jill Barklem echo Beatrix Potter.
I agree, Minarik is very quaint.
It seems to me that mostly women illustrators create this feel for me. They have that feminine, nurturing, homey touch that I just love.
An exception would be Garth Williams, except his style is broader and larger, and not petite. I also think Leo Politi might be pleasing in the same style. Robert McCloskey also evokes such wonder.
this site (I'm giving the web archive address because the regular site is not responding) is a wonderful source of top notch women illustrators. I really like most of them, but echoing Tasha Tudor, I LOVE Elizabeth Orton Jones. And Virginia Burton.
Not on this list is Lauren Ford, who had a few wonderful children's books, but they are harder to find. And also Berta and Elmer Hader. And Kate Seredy. AND Marguerite de Angeli.
Oh, and Mousekin books by Edna Miller. Just gorgeous!
Caldecott Medal and Honor books, going at the beginning, will really help you discover wonderful illustrators.
I had a fleeting remembrance of another illustrator, but it escaped me. I'll come back if I remember!
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Another series that is similar to Beatrix Potter, but might be harder to find is Little Grey Rabbit by
Alison Uttley and illustrated by Margaret Tempest.
I remembered the other one. When I think Beatrix Potter and Tasha Tudor, their illustrations reveal a naturalist, depicting nature in a realist style (although Potter had them wear clothes). There is also sweet innocence and wonder of their surroundings.
Astrid Lindgren has the Noisy Village series, but her "Christmas in the Stable" is one that echoes Tudor to me. Lauren Ford's Christmas book falls in this category, too.
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I have a lot of research to do!
I am so thrilled to have posted this question! Thank you sooo soo much ALL of you!
I love the purity of these books, the innocence.
My mom and I were talking just yesterday when she came for a visit, and I told her I was looking into cancelling our cable tv. I was very upset when one of my boys was talking to his brother and said some pretty horrid things. I know I cannot go back and fix things that way. But I can remove obstacles that are in their path at this time. I know kids eventually need to grow up and be in the world, but they should have every right to just be children. Innocent children. Thank you so much ladies.
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myheaven1967 wrote:
I yearn for wholeness and simplicity. I think that is what is drawing me in....
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Author/illustrators I love of wholeness and simplicity (and whimsy!) are Elsa Beskow and Sibylle Von OIfers...
And yes, you'd love the Brambly Hedge series... mostly out of print I think, but worth hunting for!
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Brambly Hedge
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knowloveserve wrote:
myheaven1967 wrote:
I yearn for wholeness and simplicity. I think that is what is drawing me in....
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Author/illustrators I love of wholeness and simplicity (and whimsy!) are Elsa Beskow and Sibylle Von Olfers... |
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I love their illustrations, but I'm not keen on some of the emphasis of fantasy. Pelle's New Suit is realistic, but the ones that talk about root fairies and such as explanations of the seasons, that's not what I want my children to grasp. Potter and Tudor and others are more accurate in portraying the seasons and nature.
I know an older child can grasp the fantasy, but a younger child needs reality first.
Just sharing my personal struggle with those books.
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For illustrators Margaret Tarrant has beautiful Catholic images as well as other wholesome ones
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Erin wrote:
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Ah yes, I swoon over her images. There is one I want to get, and have it framed. Several CGS atriums use this for Level I
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Oh I love that picture!!! How beautiful.
I went to our local library website and reserved a bunch to "try them out" to see what I like and what I would like to invest in both for my boys and my ahem..... future grandchildren.
(I have one thinking seriously of marriage in the near future.)
I used to like all the fairy stuff, but yes, I understand your concern in that area too.
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Erin wrote:
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I have a picture book with her artwork; it is lovely.
I have not found any stories to go with them, though... are there any?
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JennGM wrote:
I love their illustrations, but I'm not keen on some of the emphasis of fantasy. Pelle's New Suit is realistic, but the ones that talk about root fairies and such as explanations of the seasons, that's not what I want my children to grasp. Potter and Tudor and others are more accurate in portraying the seasons and nature.
I know an older child can grasp the fantasy, but a younger child needs reality first.
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Yes, I know what you mean. I tend to collect the lovely ones not originated with "mother earth" so much... Pelle's New Suit, Woody, Hazel and Little Pip etc. And Sibylle von Olfers book "The Princess in the Forest" is my absolute favorite introduction to the AUTHENTIC princess world (Disney need not apply here) for toddler girls... such a lovely, slow book.
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Actually, I was just reflecting further on this and decided that while I understand your hesitations, I think that I politely disagree... for my family anyway.
I feel like our home and literary world is balanced enough with what is REAL and TRUE that early exposure to fantasy isn't a bad thing when put in its proper place. I guess I consider Beskow's and Von Olfers heavy dip into the fantastical natural world in a similar way that I see Kipling's "Just So Stories" (e.g. How the Camel Got His Hump). Both tell inaccurate stories of physical realities. So the root children wake up and run about getting the earth ready for spring... I'm not sure I have a problem with that.
I suppose, I just don't see fairies and root children causing any significant confusion or long term damage so long as they are presented as "make believe." My older children have been exposed to these books while toddlers and they are now very normal and grounded and Catholic still... hmmm... might need some more convincing I guess.
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knowloveserve wrote:
Actually, I was just reflecting further on this and decided that while I understand your hesitations, I think that I politely disagree... for my family anyway.
I feel like our home and literary world is balanced enough with what is REAL and TRUE that early exposure to fantasy isn't a bad thing when put in its proper place. I guess I consider Beskow's and Von Olfers heavy dip into the fantastical natural world in a similar way that I see Kipling's "Just So Stories" (e.g. How the Camel Got His Hump). Both tell inaccurate stories of physical realities. So the root children wake up and run about getting the earth ready for spring... I'm not sure I have a problem with that.
I suppose, I just don't see fairies and root children causing any significant confusion or long term damage so long as they are presented as "make believe." My older children have been exposed to these books while toddlers and they are now very normal and grounded and Catholic still... hmmm... might need some more convincing I guess. |
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You don't need to be convinced; this is just what I feel strongly. In addition, I know I have a lot of "ick" factor because both these authors have been utilized by the Waldorf community, and the books are reprinted by a Waldorf publisher. While the original writings might not have been attached to Steiner or Waldorf, I have a hard time loving these books now with their connection.
I am applying some of the Montessori views of planes of development, and that the 0-3 and 3-6 planes should be rooted in reality, because they have a hard time distinguishing between reality and fantasy. But, as I said before, go into the next planes and fiction and fantasy are encouraged.
I didn't follow this as a strict rule, but I found much truth in it and tried to be as intentional as possible in my home, at least with my oldest. Minimal to no cartoons, and most books rooted in reality.
I prefer nature books to be accurate, and this is because I want my nature study to spill over into our reading and vice versa. My boys just LOVE Mousekin, and request those over and over. And to be frank, Beatrix Potter wasn't popular at all until they were older. Peter Rabbit stories were scary to them. We didn't read Just So Stories until my son started school.
It hasn't been a strict rule, and the dynamic does shift when you have a mixed bunch of ages. But I do see my younger son have more trouble sifting reality from fiction at times.
So, I'm not trying to convince or defend, just elaborating a bit.
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That makes sense Jenn, thanks!
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Oh my gosh! How do you ladies know so much?! I am in awe of all of you. Thank you Jill for asking this, I am learning so much.
But really, how do you keep track of all this info. I want to research some of this but I don't have time right now and after a while I am sure to forget about it. That happens to me a lot here. There is SO much great stuff to ponder and research. To me it seems like a full time job just to look up and research all of this. I love doing that by the way and sometimes I get sucked in to the internet enjoying learning about it all. Sigh....
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