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jillian Forum Pro
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 4:41pm | IP Logged
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So dh and I had a very tried and true recipe for bread.
1 c hot water
1 1/2 tsp salt
3 tbsp sugar
3 tbsp olive oil
3 cups flour (we usually do half white and half whole wheat)
2 1/4 tsp yeast (didn't proofread i had 1 1/4 before)
We haven't had ANY problems until recently. Our problem is basically that our bread doesn't rise enough. We do the dough (mixing, punching, resting, etc) in the bread machine and put in loaf pan and let it rise another 30 minutes (essentially gets punched down when pouring it into the pan). After that we bake at 350.
We have been using the same recipe but now it's not rising. Everything is in date, same brands of everything. How much could weather really affect rising? It's been a bit more humid lately but that's it and it's been this humid before with no problems.
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hylabrook1 Forum Moderator
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 4:55pm | IP Logged
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My guess is that your yeast measurement is off. I just double-checked in the Joy of Cooking, and the measure of yeast needed for one loaf of bread is 2 1/4 teaspoons . So maybe it's just a really simple fix? I hope so.
Peace,
Nancy
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jillian Forum Pro
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 5:02pm | IP Logged
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sorry yes it is supposed to be 2 1/4 tsps lol. DD was on my lap and I was reaching around and didn't proofread
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 5:27pm | IP Logged
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Well, if it's flat and you're really using the full measure of yeast,that's a whole nother question!
Is the water too hot?
Do you *proof* the yeast? I always mix the sugar or honey into the water, sprinkle the yeast over the water, stir it a bit with a fork, and wait a couple of minutes until it starts to bubble just to be sure the yeast is really working. Also, is your yeast old?
I'm still fixated on the yeast.
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Nancy
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 7:44pm | IP Logged
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I would also suspect the hot water.. too hot and it'll kill your yeast.
Is the bread machine starting to have problems perhaps? not doing as good a job kneading as it used to for instance?
oven temperature could also be off..
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jillian Forum Pro
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 9:07pm | IP Logged
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I use Warm/Hot water and dh uses Hot water and it still does it. I will test some of the yeast and see if it is proofing. The bread machine is less than a year old. We even usually let it sit out about 30 minutes in the loaf pan to shape/rise and it isn't getting as big as normal. I think it might be the yeast. I will check that out and go from there. I do appreciate the help. The bread machine yeast isn't supposed to need to be proofed, just put it in on top of the flour (add wet ingredients, then dry and then yeast on top).
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 9:17pm | IP Logged
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I was wondering about the water temp as well. Too hot will kill the yeast. Check your yeast and then make sure your salt and yeast don't touch. Salt inhibits yeast growth. You probably already knew that, but just in case.
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Posted: June 22 2010 at 11:21am | IP Logged
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Humidity???
Kills my bread every time. I have to use less water, which helps, but is not perfect.
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Posted: June 22 2010 at 11:22am | IP Logged
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Where are you storing the yeast? I had this problem until I stopped storing my yeast in the fridge.
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jillian Forum Pro
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Posted: June 22 2010 at 1:36pm | IP Logged
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we have always done our yeast in the fridge. I had an extra 1/8 tsp of yeast to the dough and it rose perfectly this time lol.
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Posted: June 23 2010 at 10:40am | IP Logged
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The water should be luke warm - not hot.
If you are letting the bread machine do the kneading, etc. then add the yeast as the last ingredient on top of the flour. All liquids and spices go in first.
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Posted: June 23 2010 at 3:23pm | IP Logged
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Yup the yeast has been going on top, not coming in contact with liquid until the mixing starts.
We got it to rise now!!! We preheat the oven and let it rise as it preheats and it gets to the point where there is so little humidity that it is rising the way we need it to!!!
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