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Jenny
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Can someone compare these please?
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I'd love to hear about this as well. My special needs guy is doing 4th grade MCP math. I'm wondering what to do for 5th grade. He needs lots of repetition and review to do well.
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I've used both. MCP covers a topic at a time -- subtraction in one chapter, then multiplication, etc.
For example, MCP for 5th grade is arranged like this:
Number and Place Value
Addition and Subtraction of Whole Numbers
1-digit Division
2-digit Division
Measurement
Fractions
Adding and Subtracting Fractions
Multiplication and Division of Fractions
Addition and Subtraction of Decimals
Multiplication and Division of Decimals
Geometry
Polygons
Ratio and Percent Graphs,
Statistics and Probability
There is a cumulative review and test at the end of each chapter, and the chapters do build on the previous ones, but not incrementally.
Saxon uses the incremental approach. That is, each lesson (there are 140 usually) covers a different topic. Saxon Math TOCS here in pdf format. There are a few problems that focus on the lesson learned that day, and the rest are review problems based on previous lessons.
(I'm talking about 5/4 through Algebra 1, I haven't seen the ones for the younger grades)
For us, MCP works for grades 1-4, though the repetition can get sort of boring, so I skip some of the problems and use them later for review.
We use Saxon for 5th trhough 6th or 7th grade because it covers the concepts nicely, including lots of review and also introducing new concepts and it requires the kids to think about what they are doing, not just plug in the "formula" for the topic. But at some point they usually find the incremental approach too scattershot and want to move back to a more focused approach for high school math.
Which program you'd want to use would probably depend on whether your child need to focus on a topic and really get it down before moving on, or whether he needed to review previous lessons continually while working on new ones.
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Thanks, Willa!
My John definitely needs to review previous lessons continually. He has short term memery issues.
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I have used both also. I think they are both good. Saxon can get really repetitive though, but you can always skip over some of it..thats what we had to do.
Once you get past 8th grade you really dont want to use Saxon though.
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Willa,
What do you use for high school math? I'm looking to next year and while we have used Saxon and it is OK, I do agree that it can seem sort of scattershot. I have tended to pull out other texts to introduce topics in more of their entirety before going back to the problem sets in Saxon (esp. the Algebra) and did a seperate geometry course - but haven't found a text that is as easy for me to grade.
Perhaps, I should have posted this as a new post - I don't mean to hijack the post. I was just wondering.
Janet
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Janet,
My oldest used Jacob's for Algebra and Geometry. description here then went to Foerster Algebra II and Trigonometry, which took him two years.
Second son needed more reinforcement for math. He used Key to Algebra along with Jacob's Algebra and is presently in Jacob's Geometry alongside a survey course called Mathematics Made Simple He will have time to do Algebra II in some format but I don't know whether he will use Foerster's or possibly
Teaching Textbook ALg 2 Anyone heard pros or cons about that one?
Daughter, a sophomore, likes Saxon and wants to continue through with it. (at least at this point).
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