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Posted: Jan 20 2009 at 9:50pm | IP Logged Quote Martha in VA

My dd is in 7th grade this year and doing well in Algebra 1. I think she's right where she needs to be but I'm concerned that I won't be able to count this on a college transcript. What should I do? Slow her down?

As she gets closer to high school, I want to keep in mind the admissions requirements of some of the schools we may be interested in. How can she get "four units of college-prepatory math" if she does Alg. 1 and possibly even Alg. 2 before she even enter high school. I'm starting to freak out a bit.

Can anyone advise me on this??

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Posted: Jan 20 2009 at 9:53pm | IP Logged Quote Angi

I took Alg 1 in 7th and 8th grade in public school as a child. Ang 2, Geometry, Trig, and Calc for the 4 years of high school. I went to a great college. So, I would not hold your child back, if it were me, I would just let her progress as she naturally would.
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Posted: Jan 20 2009 at 9:57pm | IP Logged Quote Caroline

I took Algebra 1 in 7th grade. I took calculus in 11th grade. My high school arranged for me to take a college level calculus 2 class in 12th grade.

I had a friend at a different high school who took calculus in 11th grade and no math in 12th. We were accepted to the same colleges. My thought is this-- he took all available math courses in high school, a college wasn't going to penalizing him for doing it early.

I hope this helps.

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Posted: Jan 20 2009 at 10:06pm | IP Logged Quote Martha in VA

Angi wrote:
I took Alg 1 in 7th and 8th grade in public school as a child. Ang 2, Geometry, Trig, and Calc for the 4 years of high school. I went to a great college.   


I did this same course of study when I was in high school. But it seems that Trig. isn't typically taken as a separate course anymore so you can't count that for one of the years anymore.

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Posted: Jan 21 2009 at 6:46am | IP Logged Quote Mary Chris

Does it vary by county in Va? I know some friends here in Loudoun that are trying to have their sons Alg 1 (he took at home) count on his high school transcript. This boy did take the highest math they offer, something above Calculus (I think, not being a mathie, my eyes glaze over after Alg/Trig) I would definitely contact the schools you are interested in.

Oh but you are talking about college requirements, not high school? (I haven't had my caffiene yet ) I would think the colleges would be willing to work with you. Are you planning on having her take classes at a junior college?    

I am looking at doing the same thing with my son, he is only in 5th now, but I think he will be ready for Alg 1 in 7th.     

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Posted: Jan 21 2009 at 7:03am | IP Logged Quote Matilda

I don't know how the rules have changed now, but I took Alg. 1 in 8th grade, Geometry in 9th, Algebra 2 in 10th, Trig. in 11th and Physics in 12th which counted double as a Math and a Science (I think because it was an honors class).

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Posted: Jan 21 2009 at 7:29am | IP Logged Quote Martha in VA

Mary Chris wrote:
Oh but you are talking about college requirements, not high school? (I haven't had my caffiene yet ) I would think the colleges would be willing to work with you. Are you planning on having her take classes at a junior college?


Yes, I'm looking at college requirements. We have not yet decided if we will have her pick up some classes at the local community college but that is a very likely option.

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Posted: Jan 22 2009 at 12:49pm | IP Logged Quote Kristie 4

My dd is in 6th and doing Alg. 1 (Jacobs) but it will take her 2 years as I find the lesson practice is long. Here in Manitoba I know I can count it toward her highschool transcript (I was careful to ask that question last week at a meeting with the govt. guy as I have heard It can sometimes be difficult to list it that way).

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Posted: Feb 10 2009 at 10:36am | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

Can I hijack this thread a little? I am wondering what your child did last year to lead into Alg I in 7th grade. Did she just do a 6th grade math text or pre-algebra?

I am wondering because my 7th grade daughter did ABeka 6 last year and has been doing Lial Basic College Mathematics this year (it is what I had on hand from last child. She isn't happy with it because it is SO basic. I am not sure what to move her into. I am not very familiar with the scope and sequence of middle school math to be sure that she wouldn't be skipping over something if we went right into pre-algebra or Alg I. Doesn't TT do 7th grade, then pre-algebra and then Alg I? Do we need to hit all of those levels?

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Posted: Feb 10 2009 at 11:58am | IP Logged Quote Martha in VA

teachingmyown wrote:
Can I hijack this thread a little? I am wondering what your child did last year to lead into Alg I in 7th grade. Did she just do a 6th grade math text or pre-algebra?

I am wondering because my 7th grade daughter did ABeka 6 last year and has been doing Lial Basic College Mathematics this year (it is what I had on hand from last child. She isn't happy with it because it is SO basic. I am not sure what to move her into. I am not very familiar with the scope and sequence of middle school math to be sure that she wouldn't be skipping over something if we went right into pre-algebra or Alg I. Doesn't TT do 7th grade, then pre-algebra and then Alg I? Do we need to hit all of those levels?

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Hi Molly,
My daughter moved into TT Alg. 1 from Saxon Pre-Algebra. I'm sorry I'm not familiar with Abeka math but I'd suggest you take a look at the placement tests on the TT website. That probably didn't help you much!   

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Posted: Feb 10 2009 at 1:02pm | IP Logged Quote CrunchyMom

Perhaps this guide to the home school entry requirements at several different schools will help?

I can't really see a college having a problem with your child taking Algebra I early--you would simply document that along with the courses they take later. I took it early in public school and had Alg II/Trig, Geometry, and Pre-Calculus in high school, but there were other math classes some kids took that also counted and weren't really "higher level"--maybe related to accounting? Not sure, but I don't really see you running into problems unless it is with a public or private school should you decide to put her in for high school.Collegeguide

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Transcript by subject rather than by year are becoming more common and might eliminate your problem. You can see samples at
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teachingmyown wrote:


I am wondering because my 7th grade daughter did ABeka 6 last year and has been doing Lial Basic College Mathematics this year (it is what I had on hand from last child. She isn't happy with it because it is SO basic. I am not sure what to move her into. I am not very familiar with the scope and sequence of middle school math to be sure that she wouldn't be skipping over something if we went right into pre-algebra or Alg I. Doesn't TT do 7th grade, then pre-algebra and then Alg I? Do we need to hit all of those levels?

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THe Lial Basic College Math includes pre-algebra if she goes all the way through it. (One of my older sons used it) RIght now, I have 2 7th graders doing TT pre-algebra and you don't get to simple algebra until Chapter 10. The first 9 chapters review the basics, then percents, decimals, fractions, and measurement.

I would stick with the Lial (maybe you can flip ahead and see when the pre-algebra starts) and then move into Algebra 1. You do need to sort of understand the basic algebra equation (finding x) before starting Algebra 1.
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Posted: Feb 11 2009 at 7:16pm | IP Logged Quote teachingmyown

Thanks Margot! That is very helpful. We will just jump ahead in Lial.

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I was going to say that I wouldn't worry about Alegra 1 not being on a high school transcript. It is very common in CA for students have it in 8th grade. My oldest had it in 7th at school.

I would be more concerned in the order that you do the rest of the math courses. For some reason, the school district decided to do Algebra 2 before Geometry when my sophomore, who is home now, was in the 9th grade.

My mom, who was a high school math teacher for over 30 years didn't understand that. I am going to pay attention to what she thinks on this one because she has experience in the trenches.

Wait, I just went back and re-read what you posted. Are colleges really requiring four years of math? I thought it was three.

I just checked the A-G requirements that the University of California system requires, which I have found to be pretty standard in out of state colleges, three years of math. Neither one of my girls will have had alegra 1 on their transcripts and my oldest is in college now.
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