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We are still struggling here. Maybe it is his age, but math is such a hurdle. Singapore seems to work well. He is learning--just dislikes it. We went back to Shiller today and ds said he preferred Singapore, but would really prefer nothing.
I need a great, creative, project oriented math curriculum for a smart, creative, really bored guy. It needs to be FUN. Oh, and I am far from a math person and I need the curriculum--I have learned so much with Singapore 
So, ideas? Anyone want to work with me and make billions and billions I am just assuming there is not one out there, but if there is, I must know NOW!
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Anne
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Anne
Remind me again, how old is your ds? A friend and I are researching this area at present so I'll pull together the info she has been sending me.
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Ds is almost 11--5th grade-ish.
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Anne
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What about some type of carpentry project?
There's a book - Easy Carpentry Projects for Children...
There's this times table project and Donna Marie links a second one in this blog's comments....
Does he like to bake/cook?
Hope that helps!
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You know, our homeschooling group is doing a class on quilt making and one of the boys who is 11 is making a camoflauge quilt.
That might be something else to consider?
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I would also try some project using Model Magic.
Right now, my son and I are working on building army fortresses for his army men...
I hope you don't think I'm strange for recommending these things...but sometimes, at least what I have found, is that you have to make math meaningful to the child and doing an art project or hands-on project helps for that...
Hope this helps.....
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What about something like Challenge Math?
I remember that John Holt was said to have said that a math-reluctant should build an addition to a house. Hhmmmm.
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Anne
Have you seen The Life of Fred? they look very interesting.
Also are you aware of the Living Math site?
A good place to start.
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mom3aut1not wrote:
What about something like Challenge Math?
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Could you tell me more about Challenge Math? I like what I see on the website, but that happens a lot and then when I get the product, it's not what I thought 
Which Challenge Math book(s) do you recommend? What ages? Do you use it as a stand-alone or as a supplement to your math program? etc.?
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You might want to look at Math on the Level (www.mathonthelevel.com). It is a very good K-8 program for reluctant kids. They focus on lots of every day math and they even have a whole book of 'math adventures'. The authors have a very helpful mailinglist, you could join and ask them for advice.
It's a very different program than other programs, but they do have a 60 day trial periode.
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Christine,
To be honest, I haven't used Challenge Math .... yet. My son is too disabled, and my girls are too old. However, you might want to check out the amazon.com reviews to get a better idea of how it would suit your needs.
http://www.amazon.com/Primary-Grade-Challenge-Edward-Zaccaro /dp/0967991536/
http://www.amazon.com/Challenge-Elementary-Middle-School-Stu dent/dp/0967991552/
Offhand, I thought you might use it as a way to get your son's creative juices flowing and to see how well he does math.
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Wow!! Some great suggestions ladies! I have thought of Life of Fred. He would love the humor and he loves to read. He is pretty bright and I think he could get it. I just know those silly math facts are just so boring and if he doesn't know them well can he really do it? His ability to figure out how to do something is way ahead of mine. The pesky facts are our nemesis. It even came out in our testing this year.
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Anne,
Don't hold him for facts; he'll learn them. You might want to use games for facts retention, but don't let "math facts" hold the two of you back.
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Anne
Wanted to get back and share with you something we tried the last week of term. We had a whole day devoted to Maths, we called it Mathbuster Monday. Like you I have a 13yr old who does not like math and seems to not be retaining anything much beyond 5th grade maths 
We started the day out reading math picture books and stories about maths. Ones like Exploring the World of Mathematics by John Hudson Tiner and Number Stories of Long Ago by David Eugene Smithwere in my pile for the older children. We then did some fun activities with multiplication. Played some maths board games Family Math has LOTS of ideas on how to make your own as well, there is also one for the middle years too.)
I did gnomes and numbers with the younger ones which he also enjoyed listening too, as well as the picture books.
Actually my math phobic son really enjoyed the day until we pulled out the Singapore Maths books just before lunch. Then we had feet dragging and big time reluctance
Anyhow my plan is to show him that maths can be engaging. We are going to continue this way after the holidays (we go back in a week) Actually every day we are going to focus on a different topic, far more leisurely and relaxed.
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Anne,
We were having the same issues with math that you are. We switched (my right brained learner daughter) to Life of Fred, and she LOVES and understands it so much better!
She's a very right brained learner. Dianne Craft's *Teaching the Right Brain Child* has helped me tremendously. You can read about her stuff here: Dianne Craft website
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We use the Mathwire site - it has lots of interesting projects for each month.
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mom2mpr wrote:
| Wow!! Some great suggestions ladies! I have thought of Life of Fred. He would love the humor and he loves to read. He is pretty bright and I think he could get it. I just know those silly math facts are just so boring and if he doesn't know them well can he really do it? |
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Why not have a couple of sessions a week of "fact practice" (games or worksheets) and then let him use a calculator for doing real maths. It would be a shame to hold him back because the facts are slowing him down.
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