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Hoping you can help me, I'm needing fiction books for the time period between 300-500Ad. We are using RC History as a spine but need lots more books than they suggest.
For my 1st-3rd Graders I have:
Once Upon a Time Saints
More once Upon a Time Saints
Patrick, Patron Saint of Ireland - T de Paola
St George and the Dragon- Margaret Hodges
Bridgid's Cloak
For my 5th-7th Graders I have:
57 Stories of Sts
The Silver Branch and the Lantern Bearers - Rosemary Sutcliff
The White Stag - Kate Seredy
The White Isle - Caroline Dale Snedeker
For my 9th Grader I have:
Nothing!! 
So I need help, it is not a lot particulary for my 9th grader who devours books.
I would love suggestions, booklists etc.
Many Thanks.
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Fiction books, or anything? Are you reading 3rd to 6th century, or 300 to 600 AD.? Always so tricky on how you word it! 
Reading Your Way Through History had a few suggestions, and see these book review on Love2Learn, especially the new review on the St. Kevin book!
I have a few ideas, and knowing how extensive your home library is, you might have these already. I don't have links, many are OOP. I did not add the Windeatt or Forbes books listed. Some of these are just random thoughts...
Fabiola by Cardinal Wiseman is fabulous, do you have it? In the same genre Scepter Press has "Junia" and the new book "Marcus", although they say 2nd century. If you can find it, Cardinal Newman had a book entitled "Callista", a fiction work about a girl in the 3rd Century, which again might not be exactly what you want.
And add "57 Saints" by the Daughters of St. Paul especially for the stories of St. Tarcisius and St. Agnes (again, if you are doing 3rd century). (Oh, now I see it's already on the list.)
I'd also add "St. Patrick's Summer" to your St. Patrick list. I just love that book to read, not always as a catechism.
St. Nicholas of Myra and St. Martin of Tours lived in the 300s. That opens up quite a few books you can read. Do you need suggestions on St. Nicholas? Then there's St. Augustine, St. Benedict,...
Your 9th grader might enjoy reading St. Martin of Tours by Regine Pernoud. It's not a fiction work, but very interesting, and very close to primary sources.
Louis de Wohl books would be wonderful to add:
The Restless Flame: Saint Augustine
Citadel of God: Saint Benedict
St. Helena and the True Cross Vision Book
The Living Wood is the adult one of St. Helen (and don't forget Evelyn Waugh's Helena)
Throne of the World (Attila and Leo I)
Some other Vision Books to add (OOP):
Saints of the Byzantine World
St. Jerome and the Bible
Irish Saints by Robert Reilly
Saint Gregory the Great by George Sanderlin
When Saints Were Young by Blanche Thompson
Saint Benedict, Hero of the Hills by Mary Fabyan Windeatt
Encounter Books:
Noble Lady (St. Helen)
Love As Strong as Death (St. Thecla, might be a little early)
Rumer Godden:
St. Jerome
Patron Saint Books
Helena by Mary Harris
David (of Wales) by Eva K. Betz
Patrick by Marigold Hunt
DePaola:
The Holy Twins
That's all the time I have for now...hope that helps.
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Oh, and it seems you could add the Catholic Mosaic suggestions for St. Patrick and the other Irish saints, St. Nicholas, St. Christopher....
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I am not sure if it falls on that time period- it might be a little earlier but, what about Fabiola- a Roman girl that converts to Christianity through the witness of her slave girl.
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Not much to add to Jenn's comprehensive list ...
St. George and the Dragon by Geraldine MacCaughrean - picture book for youngers
Knights of God, by Patricia Lynch (stories of Irish saints, including Patrick, Brendan, Brigid and Kevin) - for the 5th to 7th graders?
Hengest's Tale by Jill Paton Walsh - story of the arrival of the Saxons in Britain - for your eldest and maybe the other olders?
The real "King Arthur" is supposed to have been a 5th century British chieftain who fought against the Saxons, so you could add the Arthurian legends in here.
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Natalia wrote:
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I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE that book! I think I was a freshman when I read that -- was totally enthralled.
I can't trace my steps to find where I read on a timeline today that Diocletian's persecution was the beginning of the 300s, so it seems Fabiola would fit.
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Between the Forest and the Hills (Bethlehem Books has it in reprint). It takes place in Roman Britain in the early Christian period (may be a little earlier than 300). Bethlehem recommends it for ages 14+, but both my 9 yo and I read it. Nothing objectionable at all, just challenging vocabulary.
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Wonderful resources - thank you! I am working on dd's reading list for next year. Just completed the Ancients. We are doing one year condensed Ancient and Medieval.
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Thanks for the suggestions, some great ones, keep 'em coming  Some of them aren't quite the time period according to some of the lists I have consulted. That's what takes such a long time, checking.
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We have just finished Roman History 33AD-300AD, I know I shared some of our older books with you at your Christ The King thread but I'll re=post if for you here as I have included the younger ones books.
Some of the following are in the time of Christ or just after, some are set in Rome and some Roman Briton, I found it all tied in.
For the under 10s we read:
The Story of Saint Christopher: A First Book for Little Catholics - Leah Kean. OOP but a lovely little book.
Christopher the Holy Giant - Tomie dePaola
Saint Valentine - Robert Sabuda
The First Christians: The Acts of the Apostles for Children- Marigold Hunt
Once Upon a Time Saints -Ethel Pochocki
More Once Upon a Time Saints
For the ten yr olds up we read;
Detectives in Togas- Henry Winterfield
Tiger, Tiger- Lynne Reid Banks
The Bronze Bow - Elizabeth George Speare
The Golden House - Madeleine Polland
Legions of the Eagle - Henry Treece
War Dog- Henry Treece
The Thieves of Ostia (The Roman Mysteries)- Caroline Lawrence
Galen and the Gateway to Medicine- Jeanne Bendick
Nor Life nor Death - John O'Neil
The Man Who Never Died -Brennan Rev Gerald
The First Christians - Marigold Hunt
Vinegar Boy- Alberta Hawse
Eagle of the Ninth-Rosemary Sutcliff
The Silver Branch-Rosemary Sutcliff
The Outcast-Rosemary Sutcliff
The Lantern Bearers-Rosemary Sutcliff
* Non-Fiction 'City' - David Macaulay
Famous Men of Rome - Poland & Haaren
***A Triumph for Flavius
The White Isle
The Forgotten Daughter (12+) all by Caroline Dale Snedeker
We haven't read these but they are in Emmanuel Books Catalogue.
For the over 14's
Ben Hur -Lew Wallace
Beyond the Desert Gate- Mary Ray
The Ides of April - Mary Ray
Between the Forest and the Hills - Ann Lawrence
The Young Cathaginian - G A Henty
Beric the Briton, A story of the Roman Invasion - GA Henty
The Fall of Jerusalem - GA Henty
The Restles Flame - Louis deWohl
The Spear - Louis deWohl
The Robe-Llyod Douglas
The Silver Chalice - Thomas Costain
*GA Henty may be fine for a serious younger reader, for your 12yr old they are just serious.
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What lists are you using to fit into a time period? I had Christopher wrong, but I looked up saints in the Patron Saints Index for my dates. Not sure how you categorize a saint when he crosses the 200-300? I included the ones that died in the 300s.
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I worked out Jennwhy I was having the time frame differences, I was stopping at 500AD and some books you had listed for ther 6th Century which is all good still not wasted as I'll be needing them too soon.
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Not that one but Fabiola's Sisters by the same author, now you remind me dd still hasn't read it.
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Thanks for the Junia and Marcus, we already have an old copy of Callista.
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I'd love some St Nicholas suggestions, I have some stories of him in Six O'Clock Saints and Saints especially for Boys by Joan Wyndham, More About the Saints by Mary Cousins, Christmas and the Saints by Hertha Pauli (vision Books), Country Angel Christmas by Tomie dePaola and the Legend of St Nicholas by Demi.
Thanks for these and the other OOP titles, I have some of the books but it is helpful to know some of the other titles. I'll be keeping an eye out.
BTW Have any of you seen Story of the World? I've been re-reading old threads and trying to decide if it is a good fit for us to add to RC History, I'm particularly interested in the hands on components, but I am concerned with how much I'll have to discard being Protestant. Is it worth my time and money?
Perhaps you could suggest other great hands on books or other resources for this time period, I've being searching to no avail.
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I worked out Jennwhy I was having the time frame differences, I was stopping at 500AD and some books you had listed for ther 6th Century which is all good still not wasted as I'll be needing them too soon. |
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And I'll just tell you it's not until now that I read 500. I read it 300-600 every time. Mea Culpa. I think I need to stop posting. I read too quickly and post hastily because I'm pressed for time, but then I make mistakes! And make my screen a bit bigger.[/quote]
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Not that one but Fabiola's Sisters by the same author, now you remind me dd still hasn't read it. |
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Wasn't aware of a follow-up book. Now I'll have to keep my eyes peeled.
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I'd love some St Nicholas suggestions, I have some stories of him in Six O'Clock Saints and Saints especially for Boys by Joan Wyndham, More About the Saints by Mary Cousins, Christmas and the Saints by Hertha Pauli (vision Books), Country Angel Christmas by Tomie dePaola and the Legend of St Nicholas by Demi. |
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I'm going to take the easy way out and mention my books for St. Nicholas for my favorites and then suggest St. Nicholas Center for further reading suggestions. I have some older saint biographies, but they aren't exactly "living".
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I have not looked at this, nor Child's History of the World (Hillyer) which everyone talks about. Here's my confession -- I've never even seen a copy of it, yet. Since my son isn't old enough, I haven't had the reason to buy it new. I didn't find a used copy that crossed my path to peruse it yet or borrow someone else's copy! I've been wondering the same thing. The used book sale I attend I stay away from the history table merely because it's the most cutthroat. I don't like dealing with that!
I am continuing to look, Erin. I was reading several books that are standard homeschooler resources, but I hadn't read until now.
Cathy Duffy mentioned in her 100 Top Picks for Homeschool Curriculum the book The Old World's Gifts to the New by Sister Mary Celeste. I hadn't heard of it before, she says it's similar to a Child's History of the World, just a Catholic version.
She had some books listed for history periods, and this was the only one not on your list:
The Lantern Bearers by Rosemary Sutcliff (A.D. 450, Britain) ETA: I just saw it, so yes it was on the original list, sorry!
I was poking around at Ambleside and Mater Amabilis and Our Father's House to get other ideas.
How about Dr. Warren Carroll's books? Too much for your avid reader? Usborne Book of World History?
Our Father's House has many links to different eras...have you perused that yet?
That's all I got, and I've got to clean and pack... 
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I love Story of the World (all of them - even Middle Ages, though reformation chapter needs Catholic view) and Child's History of the World. I have to look at the Catholic one you mentioned Jenn - second time that has come up for me.
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Oh, St. Genevieve was from that time period.
Patron Saints for Girls online book, also Joan Windham has a good one, although it's under St. Jennifer.
OOP "A Candle Burns for France" by Blanche Jennings Bryan
And "St. Jerome and the Lion" by Margaret Hodges.
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Don't you EVER stop posting!! I LOVE your posts 
Thanks for the St Nicholas links, I'll follow them up.
I'm very interested to read Cathy Duffy's review on Sr Mary Celeste's book, so often I've wondered what it is like. I have also read parts of Child's History of the World (borrowed of a friend) and liked what I read, very readable, even to my young ones.
Yep I'd checked out Our Father's House, their catalog is in my favourites pile.
I really don't know about Warren Carroll, we have one of his books and dd found it too much, she is a little older now but I have to admit, I find him 'heavy'.
Thanks for mentioning St Genevieve I have a few stories on her, Children's Book of Saints by Hugh Ross Williamson has a good one. 'Sides it is my 4yrolds name.
Marilyn
It was really reassuring to hear your view on SOTW, this is a real difference for me buying something like this, until recently I have always created units from scratch. Excitedly I was talking to an irl friend in town who has the books! So I am stopping in this afternoon to borrow them and study them. Maybe I should consider A Child's History of the World even if I just borrow it from a friend.
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I was wondering if that was the case. I always hear about Anne Carroll's books but I hardly ever here anybody mentioning his books. I know that MODG uses it in the Ancient History course which I think is designed for 10th graders ( but I am not sure). I tried to read his book The Guillotine and the Cross and frankly, I found it boring.
Regarding STOW I don't think there would be much trouble for Catholics as far as Volume I goes.It covers from prehistoric times to the last Roman Emperor. To get the hands on ideas you would have to buy the Activity Guide. I am not much for hands on activities but I have found her reading suggestions very valuable. She divides them into history readings and literature reading. And she frequently includes geography books about the country you are studying.
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The Guillotine and the Cross is the one I was referring to, way too much detail, very boring. I have one somewhere on communism, I haven't opened it, the size of the book is huge, only serious readers need apply. 
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