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I recently had my 8 yo ds evaluated for learning disabilities. I don't have the final results yet but she agreed that he is dyslexic, just from her impressions while testing him. This past year he has progressed from barely knowing the alphabet sounds, to haltingly reading books like Henry & Mudge, etc. I think he's made amazing progress but i want to help him in whatever ways work best. We used the Bob books and Explode the Code up til now. One major problem is spelling. I haven't pushed it at all before now, but like most dyslexics, he has trouble with spelling words that he can read easily. I know about Sequential Spelling and The Phonetic Zoo - I'd like to hear if anyone has had experience using one of these specifically with dyslexia. Also, if there are any good books I could read on dyslexia please advise me.
The evaluator talked a little about some programs like Orton-Gillingham and others, but said I would have to have training to use these. We'll be meeting in 2 weeks to go over the whole evaluation and there may be some other learning disabilities, too, but i wanted to start reading up on dyslexia now.
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My ds 8 had a lot of dyslexic symptoms which have largely cleared up since taking him off gluten when we found out he had celiac disease. However, he STILL needs a different program...
The program I have used which is based on Orton-Gillingham, but does NOT require Training is PAF. I have been very pleased with the results. It also uses Explode the Code workbooks and has a handwriting component. I would guess that if you did the program THOROUGHLY it would help with spelling. We haven't gotten to that stage yet.
You can get it from Rainbow Resource
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I don't know much about dyslexia from personal experience, but I remember that the AVKO program (http://www.readingandspelling.org/) was originally written for dyslexics. On the right side of the page, when you scroll down a bit, you'll see info on dyslexia. Sequential Spelling (I know you said you heard of it) is not their only product. They have reading materials for dyslexics as well. I read the one called "Starting at Square One" as well as "To Teach a Dyslexic" in the past and found them to be VERY informative. Maybe that will help?
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Thanks for the info on PAF - that looks very interesting AND affordable, too! I like that it coordinates with Explode the Code, since we've been using them already. After my first post, I looked around online and found Barton Reading Program which looks very good and thorough, BUT very expensive!
Christine, I have looked around at the AVKO site, but the articles I read were all very general knowledge about dyslexia, not specifics about instruction. Their site is a bit confusing, so maybe i have missed something.
My impression from the evaluator is that she felt his dyslexia is pretty severe, and he will need very thorough help with it. And she's a homeschooling mom also, so she's not pushing getting him into school or anything!
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Karen T wrote:
The evaluator talked a little about some programs like Orton-Gillingham and others, but said I would have to have training to use these. We'll be meeting in 2 weeks to go over the whole evaluation and there may be some other learning disabilities, too, but i wanted to start reading up on dyslexia now.
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The Gillingham method doesn't require training, but it DOES require a LOT of the teacher - it's intensive. And it works. Maureen Wittmann recently gave a talk on special needs children and explained how she used it with her children. You can get the Gillingham manual at EPS, but maybe the kit that someone mentioned from Rainbow would be more user friendly. What I liked about the manual is that it gave so much information for me - it's that reading about dyslexia that you're asking about. Of course you can search on line for reading about it as well.
Some people have had success with the Audiblox program as well. I tried it . . . tried everything!!! And then we found out it was mostly a visual muscle(as in physical) problem. Spelling is still a struggle, but ds is on grade level reading now.
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ETA: The Barton Reading program is a Gillingham-Orton program.
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I have been suspicious that my ds may be dyslexic. After reading the symptoms of dyslexia from the Barton site today, I realize that it is time to come out of the land of denial and admit that we are having problems.
I have heard nothing but good things about the Barton program. You are right, though, it is horribly expensive. This is the reason that is holding me back from buying it.
Some good books on dyslexia are Overcoming Dyslexia by Sally Shaywitz and The Mislabeled Child by Brock and Fernette Eide.
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One of my dds had symptoms of dyslexia and teaching her to read was challenging. She has gone on to become a strong reader, and I no longer believe she is dyslexic. However, I found the book Reading Reflex to be very helpful and I also highly recommend the AVKO Sequential Spelling program.
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I do have Reading Reflex and I think that's one reason he's made a lot of progress in reading this year - I've been following their recommendations. However, I recently realized that he is memorizing a lot of stuff - words, lines and even entire books. That's fine for reading; you certainly need to memorize a lot of words, esp sight words that don't follow phonics rules. But, you also need to be able to decode words phonetically in order to spell and write, and learn unfamiliar words.
Julia, I'm glad to hear good things about Barton. It really does look very thorough (I watched the demo video) I wonder if there are used ones available on ebay!
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Karen, I have occasionally seen Barton on the Sale & Swap board at the Well Traind Mind Forum. You might check there once in awhile.
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Hi Karen,
We don't have dyslexia per se here but we do have vision issues & an extreme auditory learner.
Just a thought - the one ds that has had the most difficulty learning to read seems to learn by touch. Have you read about learning styles? I'm planning to go over all the sounds with him (although he knows them) using the sandpaper letters. Maria Montessori was just incredible with the way she used manipulatives with children. She taught children reading by teaching them to spell 1st which I believe really helps solidfy phonics before the child gets into the actual act of reading.
Also, my auditory learner still struggles with spelling (he's 13 1/2). We're using Phonetic Zoo which works pretty well for him. AVKO helped but not that much.
Hope everything works out for your son!
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Thanks, Julia, I will check out the WTM board as well as some of the other re-sales.
Brenda,
I have read a lot about the different ways of learning and the funny thing is that the dyslexic one is VERY visual - has almost a photographic memory, which does help him memorize sight words very well. He does not learn well by auditory, possibly b/c of hearing difficulties. I don't mean like partially deaf, but he has Sensory Processing Disorder also, and noise just overwhelms him. He also has speech problems (he's had therapy) but may not hear all sounds correctly, making it harder to translate what he hears to what is on the page (esp digraphs and blends)
My dd, though, is a big auditory learner. I'm currently on a search to discover the best math program for her, as Miquon is not working well for her (it's great for ds). It makes me SO glad I'm homeschooling them!
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Karen
My irl friend and 4Real Member Lynn has six of her eleven children with varying degrees of dyslexia and a dd with Downs Syndrome. She has just written a poston the reading program she is currently using and how happy she is with it.
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