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LucyP Forum All-Star
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Okay so that was fascinating to me. I had no idea that some churches don't also offer the Blood, although I did know about the Host being both body and blood. I assume inction is what some of the foriegn communicants do at our church - dipping the host in the wine?
So my question is, is it okay not to take the cup too? I got very very ill for years after contracting an illness from a shared communion cup after I started living as a Christian (communion at a baptist church), so I would rather avoid it if it was not irreverant not to.
The other question is - how do you recieve on the tongue? That sounds silly, but do you keep your hands folded and just open the mouth or stick the tongue out a bit or what? At our anglo-catholic church we attended before everyone knelt, and you could recieve either way - but here at the catholic church everyone stands and takes it in the hand usually from a lay person. It seems to me, more reverant for me not to handle the Body of Jesus, and I don't get why in the hand is so common now.
And when it comes to the chalice, do you get it in your hands or just wait to be helped? Again, I didn't like grabbing hold of the chalice but there seemed no other way to do it.
Is it usual to always kneel at a latin mass? I know dh struggles to find much reverance for the Real Presence of Christ in the procedure at the Catholic church - while it was very much a holy experience at the anglican church - although we agree that wasn't actually a valid sacrament and we have yet to be allowed to take communion at the catholic church.
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No, you don't "need" to receive the wine also. Both have the Body, Blood, Soul, & Divinity, so it is okay to not do both.
And I grew up with the whole alter rail, on the tongue only. Yes, you kind of slightly stick your tongue out. Be sure to open your mouth wide enough, too. Huh, this is kind of hard to explain.
I have no idea why it is so common now. I am sure it is a Vatican II thing. I fell away from the Church in the mid 1980's while living in NJ, but up until then, every Catholic church I went to - and I went weekly, and had been in Catholic school for 11 years - was only at an alter rail, only kneeling, only on the tongue, only the priest distributing (we didn't even have Deacons), and only intinction (but very slightly). When I came back to the Church, in AZ in the late 90's, everywhere here did things MUCH differently than what I grew up with. I don't know how much is regional, or what.
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I often avoid the Chalice if there's a large congregation, esp. during the winter season. That's just reasonable....
Communion in the hand was forbidden for a LONG time, even after Vat II. But people kept doing it, kept promoting it, and finally, it was officially allowed. After that, people thought it was the ONLY way to go.
It is usual to always kneel at a Tridentine mass. A latin Novus Ordo you will see both kneeling and standing. You CAN receive kneeling at any mass... though you may get some looks. And its harder with a baby in your arms.... Another option is to genuflect (rather than bow) when the person in front of you receives... then you're up in time to go forward. That can be hard with a baby too.
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cactus mouse wrote:
Yes, you kind of slightly stick your tongue out. Be sure to open your mouth wide enough, too. Huh, this is kind of hard to explain. |
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The tip I heard from an FSSP priest is to open your mouth wide and let your tongue rest on your bottom lip. That allows the priest to lay the Host on your tongue without much trouble. Works for me!
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LucyP wrote:
At our anglo-catholic church we attended before everyone knelt, and you could recieve either way - but here at the catholic church everyone stands and takes it in the hand usually from a lay person. |
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Just wanted to add, Lucy, that although there are usually many lay ministers distributing Communion at our local parish (NOT the parish we usually attend, but we do sometimes go there), my husband and I always go to the priest's line, no matter where we're sitting. We usually sit toward the back anyway, so we just exit toward the rear and line up at the end of the priest's line. We prefer to receive from the priest and have found that priests are more comfortable with Communion on the tongue than lay ministers seem to be around here. Anyway, if that makes your husband more comfortable, he can definitely do that.
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We have several people here who recieve while kneeling.. not a problem.
Yes, someone please.. what do you do with your hands when recieving on the tongue?
about 99% of the time I have a child in arms which solves the problem but then I'm all lost the once every couple of years that I may not.
Also, I've read that because of the type of material that the chalises are made out of.. and how they're turned (so you're not immediately using the same spot) that you're more likely to get sick from being in the proximity of the sick person than from the chalise.. And the wine used has a high enough alcohol content that it's not a carrier.
Of course, If I'm likely to be contagious, I stay home anyway. It's just those times when you don't feel that bad, nothing that would necessarily mean you're contagious that makes it hard to know.
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Just put your hands together, prayer style, and hold them chest level or below.
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Just as an update, there were 62 responses for the questions my dd8 had. 45 were by mouth, and only 20 for the precios wine.
We typically go to Mass the same time every Sunday, and I am the ONLY person who receives by mouth --- and I get looks from EVERYONE. I grew up in the 70's and that was what we did. I do remember when more and more people started using their hands, but I don't ever remember kneeling.
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CKwasniewski wrote:
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Don't forget that however you receive you should step close to the person who is distributing. It's easier to distribute reverently and carefully to someone who is close to you.
If someone were handing you a knife, you wouldn't stand 2 feet away, right? Which do you want to be more careful with?
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Intinction must only be done by a Priest. SELF intinction, where a person places the precious body into the precious blood and then consumes (dipping) is not licit or allowed. sorry if this has already been convered. just wanted to make sure no one thought I did that when I said I receive the Precious Blood by intinction!
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