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Posted: Aug 16 2007 at 10:42am \| IP Logged

Has anyone used these. I looked at the Language Lessons for Little Ones - and it was great for a CM approach - especially to those new to CM.

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I ordered Language Lessons for Little Ones and Language Lesson for the Very Young. I like them! Add lots of living books, additional narration, and in my opinion, more copy work(I'm using Copy Work for Little Boys, and will add various selection from our Unit studies), and its a nice, CM style L.A. program.

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I ordered the Language Lessons for Little Ones - I really liked the look of it.

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Posted: Feb 17 2009 at 6:34pm \| IP Logged

I am looking at this program for my son, and was wondering if anyone had any additional feedback?

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Posted: Feb 17 2009 at 6:44pm \| IP Logged

I have Language Lessons for Little Ones, vol.2 - and my dd6 does like it. Very gentle, imho.

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Posted: Feb 17 2009 at 6:47pm \| IP Logged

thanks Laura, my son will be 5 in May. We have been doing letter of the Week and am torn between Queens and CHC for our next step

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SylviaB wrote:

am torn between Queens and CHC for our next step

If you are thinking like CHC's first speller, or using Queen's....well, I would go with Queen's. I have used, for different kids, CHC first speller, and a few of teh older ones. I have the first speller for dd because I wasn't sure whether to use that or Queen's. Queen's is MUCH more CM-ish, and imvvvho, I think it is better than CHC's. My ds10 is using CHC for spelling, grammar and handwriting, so I do use their items. dd is using them for just handwriting now.

CHC first speller would be good to go along with their learning to read program...(little folks? I forget the exact title, where is my brain?) but....

overall, I would go with Queens.

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Posted: Feb 17 2009 at 10:22pm \| IP Logged

I have the book for the Elementary Child. I don't like it. I think she tries too hard to be gentle and ends up lacking any real cohesion.

The child spends days at a time just doing copywork and then will jump back into a concept covered weeks before. I don't think her explanations are great either.

I am pretty laid back about grammar, especially in the younger grades, but was still disappointed in this.

Fwiw, I am loving SWB's First Language Lessons. I have three doing Level Three this year. We loosely followed Level 1 and 2 last year.

Of course, I haven't looked at the younger levels which is what you are interested in. I just thought I would chime in on the older levels.

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Posted: Feb 18 2009 at 6:36am \| IP Logged

It is laid back. I have a 6th and a 8th grader doing Queens. The 8th grader also does Shurely. There is a chunk (we are in it now) where she has copywork for a speech from F. Douglas that lasts literally 10 minutes when read aloud (my dd made me time her). It's a TON of copywork lessons. She did several days worth and now I've told her to just skip ahead.

The 6th grader has done Shurely for the last 3 years, so he needed a BIG rest and Queen's is definitely giving it to him.

The youngers, the preK and 1st grader, are doing well as I do it with them and we do add more to it (except the preK'er).

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Thanks everyone. Molly, if you used it with something else would you like it better? Thanks for the recommendation for FLL, I haven't looked at it. I have also seen Primary Language Lessons discussed and in the MODG list for 2nd grade (I think?). Is that the same thing?

KackyK, what do you use with it? Any thoughts if ETC would work with it or maybe CHC's Speller or later Language of God?

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FWIW, I have used most of the programs mentioned in this thread, at one time or another (we've been at this a long time

). This year is the first year with Queen and I am liking it. It is true that there is a ton of copywork in some places (long poems or speeches that take up several lessons)...I skip those. I used First Language Lessons by SWB last year (level 3) and considered getting their newly released level 4, as this is an excellent program imho, but I was finding myself having a harder and harder time fitting it in as often as I needed to, so I decided to give Queen a try. I have been torn between FLL and Queen, but have decided that I had to go with what worked better for me...so far it's Queen.

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Posted: March 02 2009 at 3:07pm \| IP Logged

What is First Language Lessons SWB?

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Erin,
First Language Lessons by Susan Wise Bauer (The Well-Trained Mind). The one I used was the 3rd grade level. It is Charlotte Mason based and also teaches them diagramming. It is a very thorough grammar/language arts program. They just came out with level 4. You can see them on the Peace Hill Press website
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 7:33am \| IP Logged

Lisa in NH wrote:

I love the FLL. Wow - I did not know there were more levels. My twins did great on the first one and I am starting it with my next little guy next year.

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Posted: March 03 2009 at 12:15pm \| IP Logged

And there are also Primary Language Lessons & Int. Language Lessons, which are at Hillside Education. For 2nd grade & up...

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Posted: March 05 2009 at 10:50pm \| IP Logged

I tried two different levels, we didn't like it at all. I started out liking it and they did too and then it just seemed like copywork, tons and tons of copywork.

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Posted: April 22 2009 at 8:09pm \| IP Logged

I am just getting around to looking at the samples of Queen's, because...well, I keep seeing them come up in threads and wonder if I'm missing something!

So here's what I'm wondering...is this any different than PLL/ILL other than its a workbook format? And how much of it can be done independently versus working with mom? I am getting bored with PLL/ILL and am looking for something gentle for a 4th grader, and wondering if this might fit the bill...

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teachingmyown wrote:

I think she tries too hard to be gentle and ends up lacking any real cohesion.

I am/have used Queen's Language Lesson for the Very Young, and LL for Little Ones for dd, age 6, and not reading. Its perfect for her. Gentle, with lots of nice prose and art appreciation mixed in.

I agree with Molly though about the Elementary Child book, at least for my ds, age 8.5. He was way early to reading, and needs more direction. I am using English for the Thoughful Child for him, and it is perfect. Easy enough that he can do it on his own without a struggle, but more intentional in its approach to teaching parts of speech, grammar, etc. However, still full of great copywork, poetry, memorization, and art appreciation.

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I have been thinking about Queen's while shopping this morning. I don't mind a lot of copywork. I did that with my first two and they both made decent transitions to middle school writing after that. Its hard to tell from the small amount of samples on the site, but it does look like the grammar is more gentle than PLL/ILL, and it looks like a lot of picture study. I never really cared for PLL/ILL's conversation starters or picture study (for some reason, they just seemed awkward for us) so we just skipped it. These look better...maybe I won't skip them!

I am seriously thinking about giving it a try, along with the copybooks that are gender based. The samples on their web site look really really lovely.

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