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Please would you share if and how you use the Liturgy of the Hours.
Thank you
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My dh and I do. We are Dominican laity, and it is an obligation for us.
We normally say morning prayer and evening prayer in English. My dh normally sings compline in latin for us at bedtime. This is the most that lay people with kids can normally manage! (Even then, we miss occaisionally.  )
Saying the hours has really been a blessing for us over the past few years. I know many psalms by heart now and some lines of others will come to me spontaneously in prayer.
A Benedictine monk said the liturgy is like a sea. You are thrown into it and it shapes your soul. This has certainly been my experience.....
I encourage anyone who is thinking of doing the hours, to go for it! 
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I try to say the Liturgy of the Hours every day. Morning and Evening Prayer. I learned how to follow the prayerbook when I was in the convent and I always found great comfort in the Psalms... and do to this day, almost 20 years later.
I second CK's suggestion to 'go for it'! It is a beautiful historical lyrical form of prayer.
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Thank you for the replies.
Do you know if there are any Liturgy of the Hours cds eg compline?
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I know there are some, usually done by monasteries, often in latin. I'm asking my dh, who is the gregorian chant man...
Are you thinking of latin or english?
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I've made some MP3 audio of morning prayer for my husband. I haven't gotten through the whole liturgical year, let alone feasts. It allows him to pray MP in the AM on his drive to work.
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Could you point me in the direction of another thread maybe that explains how to say The Liturgy of the Hours. We have a Magnificat subscription but I am completely ignorant of what the Morning, Evening, Night prayers are. When do you say them and how do you say them? Help!?!
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Here is what dh said about recordings:
Unfortunately I don't know of any "off the top of my head." I know that they exist. What you can find are Vespers sung by monastic choirs.
Check out Paraclete Press, which is the US distributor for Solesmes recordings.
This would be for latin.
I think you could also find sung recordings for english. But often it is simply recited.
Great if you can find one for an ipod!
hth
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Matilda,
Unfortunately, the Magnificat night prayers, etc. have very little to do with the liturgy of the hours as said by priests and religious. It is totally their own thing. However, it can be very helpful for some people and it is a place to start.
Morning prayer is said around 6 am (or when you get up--in our case!  ), Evening prayer about 6-7pm (dinnertime) and Night prayer around 8-9 (bedtime).
Hth,
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I found this mp3 download of the Liturgy of the Hours:
Praystation Portable
I'm interested in learning more about this myself...
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Matilda--
It might be easier to start out with Shorter Christian Prayer. It is the Morning, Evening and Night prayers with a few solemnities and saints' feast days. It does not have the Office of the Readings and I have heard it has a more complete song section than the full 4-volumes. Shorter prayer is only about $12 so it would be a good choice for several family members. I plan to get more copies for my dc so we can begin to say Morning prayer together.
It has a very good explanation in the front of the order of the prayers and the pages to find them but I think it was easier because I learned with the group that stayed after morning Mass; do you have anything like that? If not, perhaps you have a deacon or member of a third order who can help you get started?
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CKwasniewski wrote:
| Unfortunately, the Magnificat night prayers, etc. have very little to do with the liturgy of the hours as said by priests and religious. It is totally their own thing. However, it can be very helpful for some people and it is a place to start. |
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The prayers included in the Magnificat can get one used to the canticles (Zachariah for the morning, the Magnificat itself for the evening) and introduce one to reading a psalm as part of one's prayer life, so they are in that way quite helpful as an introduction. But they are only tenuously tied to the particular readings of the Liturgy of the Hours.
I began praying Morning and Evening Prayer out of Christian Prayer (which, as I understand it, is an abbreviated version of the Divine Office--is that right?) when my mother-in-law, who is a third-order Carmelite, gifted me a copy. My husband and I then prayed Evening Prayer together for several years. It got pushed aside when my daughter was born (you know, that newborn stage when "morning" and "evening" sort of just run together ) But I'm trying to pick up morning prayer again.
It is such a spiritually-rewarding exercise; the psalms are so rich, and I would often find them, unexpectedly, at the tip of my tongue through the day thanks to the constant recitation.
I've been looking for a good online audio version. Univeralis has the text laid out each day, which might be helpful to you.
And my husband would love a downloadable chanted version (especially in Latin), so if anyone finds one, please do post here!
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I thought shorter Christian prayer only contained the psalm section of morning and evening prayer.
The Christian prayer book does contain instructions on how to use the book. Basically there is a 4 week psalm section and then the other section. (Very basic explanation!)
I think we're in week III - Thursday. We were taught in our Third Order class to begin using the prayer book by simply going through the Week III Thursday prayers without trying to incorporate the saint days. Once used to the format, we were encouraged to follow the guide to include saint days.
The format inlcudes
~saying the Glory be after each psalm
~Beginning and ending each pslam with an antiphon listed
~The canticle of Zechariah are the words spoken by Zechariah when he finally could speak after 9 months of being struck dumb (found in the instruction part of the book)
~Say the Glory after The Canticle of Zechariah
~The canticle of Zechariah is begun and ended with the antiphon listed.
~In Evening prayer the Canticle of Zechariah is replaced with the Magnificat - (same format applies Glory and antiphon)
Other than this information, if you just read through the Week III prayers, you should be able to get the feel for the rhythm.
In answer to the question of what time to say these prayers, I believe the Franciscans of the Immaculate pray Evening prayer around 4:00. I don't think laypeople have an obligation to say them by a particular time.
I usually say evening prayer around 9:00 pm and Morning prayer whenever I can fit it in. (I would normally try to pray before my children are awake but if I need to pray later - I do.)
I pray Sunday Morning prayer aloud in the car on the way to Mass.
I blogged about the Liturgy of the HOurs
One way to bring the Psalms into your life
What kind of breviary?
One last thought about the Breviary
Daughter of the King also has a post on the Liturgy of the Hours this week:
How to begin
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DominaCaeli wrote:
| I began praying Morning and Evening Prayer out of Christian Prayer (which, as I understand it, is an abbreviated version of the Divine Office--is that right?) |
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Celeste we were posting at the same time!
Christian Prayer is the same as the Divine Office. However, it only contains Morning, Evening and Night prayer. (The Divine Office would include Office of Readings and the shorter hours in the middle of the day.) Shorter Christian Prayer is the abbreviated version. (I was told that Shorter is abbreviated.)
Office of Readings is also available in a one volume book. I've seen it at our adoration Chapel.
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Helen wrote:
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Oh, this is good to know, Helen. I will be on the lookout for it.
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I forgot another aspect of the format.
Morning and Evening prayer opens with
God, come to my assistance.
--Lord, make haste to help me.
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit:
as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be for ever. Amen.
(This truncated version of the Glory is used in the Liturgy of the Hours.)
If you only pray Morning and Evening prayer it is customary to begin Morning Prayer with the Invitatory prayer.
In that case, you don't say the part, God come to my assistance, but instead
Lord, open my lips.
--And my mourth will procalim your praise.
Invitatory antiphon
Invitatory Psalm 95
and then straight into Morning prayer. (The hymn or right into the first antiphon.)
This is a good example of why people find the Liturgy of the Hours a little confusing in the beginning. I probably would just begin with Morning prayer and the usual beginning phrase, God come to my assistance. Then, when that is comfortable, add the invitatory prayer.
(The invitatory prayer opens the prayer for the entire Liturgy of the Hours. So, if you also pray Office of Readings, the Invitatory would come first.)
Lord, open my lips
and my mouth will proclaim your praise.
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Shorter Christian Prayer does have Night Prayer.
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Our family prays Morning and Evening prayer each day as a family. We typically say Morning Prayer before 8:00 Mass and Evening Prayer around 7:00--right after dinner.
If you get the four-volume set, the Advent volume has instructions for praying the hours, but it is very helpful to team up with someone who already knows how to say it, or visit a local monastery a few times to get a sense for the rhythm, etc.
Since we happen to have the four-volume set, we often use the other hours for extra devotions during Advent or Lent, but this is usually done by dh and I privately and separately. It's a bit chaotic saying the Office with two small kids, but the beauty of the Liturgy is that it can sort of overcome that. Our two-year old is starting to get into some of the more repetitive part of the Office.
FWIW, I find Shorter Prayer harder to use--lots more flipping around of pages and not everything is included for the liturgical seasons. I don't think you'll regret getting the Christian Prayer volume. As someone already mentioned, it has complete Morning, Evening and Night Prayers. Keep your eyes out for the four-volume set at thrift sales--that's where I got mine. There is a lot of wonderful stuff in the Office of Readings.
And, as someone also said, the times don't matter too much. Every order has a different Horarium and there is no requirement for lay people. As my dh always says, "Pray as you can, not as you can't!"
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The Universalis link someone posted above is very helpful. As I recall a few years back, when I wanted to start saying the Office again, I found that website and printed off their 'guide'... which is very helpful.
Also, on I-Tunes, there is a Liturgy of the Hours Morning Prayer podcast that you can subscribe to (for free) and each day when you open up your I-tunes, it will download that days... it is rather nice, a group of people reciting the psalms, even a song.
My thought was to tape myself saying Morning Prayer, to use in the car... but I haven't done that yet.
I use the "Christian Prayer" book. The only volume of the 4 volume set that I have is the Lent one. I use that for additional spiritual reading. But I found it cumbersome to use for Morning and Evening Prayer, because it had everything else in there (Daytime, Readings, Night)... also, the song section didn't have musical notations included, as I recall, which the Christian Prayer" volume has.
So as I said, I used that Lent one just for the add'l readings here and there.
By the way, you can buy a set of ribbons (mine has 5 different colors), and here is how mine are set up:
first one (green) on the section of the Sundays (which shows you which week of the Liturgical Year and also which week of the I - IV that the psalms will be from that week).
second one (yellow) I keep on the page where the Canticle of Zechariah is. The Invitatory Psalm (for Morning Prayer) is two pages before and the Magnificat 2 pages after, so it's a good spot to keep that ribbon.
third one (blue) is on today's (e.g. Thursday evening)
fourth one (red) I keep in the Night Prayer section
fifth one (purple) I keep in the back section where the saints days are...
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We have prayed the Liturgy in the Hours in the morning since we were married (I guess dh has done it since his vocation discerning days  ). I have wanted to put together some tips on praying it with young children, maybe I can get a post on my blog after I finish this CM sereis I am in the midst of. Don't have time for more now, but will let y'all know if I get that up.
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