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Posted: March 15 2007 at 7:58am \| IP Logged

I have never been much of a makeup person and anything expensive would be a splurge for me,but I need to figure out what makeup to get. I need a foundation. My skin has been getting dry patches and has been blotchy the last couple of years. I look too pale and tired, even when I'm not. Any suggestions?

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 8:12am \| IP Logged

Clinique, sold in Dept stores has a few lines of "Almost Makeup" or also just tinted moisturizer that can give you some coverage without feeling or looking like you're wearing makeup. I use this when I need some foundation. I like Clinique because it's not scented.

Are your dry patches flaky? You might need to exfoliate...your cleaning and facial treatment is more important than the coverup. I've talked about it before, but I really highly endorse Paula's Choice products. Every time I think I'm going to find something else, my face starts looking bad. I go back on the cleaning routine and my dh notices within a few days and tells me I'm glowing and have a wonderful complexion. I have the Tzone combination skin, prone to blemishes. I use the skin balancing cleanser, then Beta Hydroxy Acid in the morning and Alpha Hydroxy Acid in the Evening, with a light moisturizer. I still get my monthly breakouts due to hormones, but they are much better.

I don't have much luck buying foundation without trying it on my skin, but there is also a tinted moisturizer, barely there, with spf, also.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 8:21am \| IP Logged

Just a bit more. I wanted to add that I'm NOT a big makeup person, so that's why I'm answering your question -- I have the same dilemmas. Another option for coverage of blotchiness is powder. There are different types of powder now that provide a little foundational color and smoothness. Clinique also has some various examples of powders. I tried Lancome and loved the coverage, but I would breakout every time I used it.

So for everyday, I *literally* powder my nose, little blush, mascara and lip gloss. I admit I forget to reapply the powder, though, during the day. For dressier occasions, I'll use more foundation, the light, coverage, then a bit of powder.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 8:28am \| IP Logged

I know nothing about skin care and makeup. My whole life I just used soap and water and mascara and was good to go. In my forties, I seem to need a little more effort.

Thanks, Jenn!

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 9:20am \| IP Logged

I'm very glad to see the suggestions on this thread, although technically Jenn you have one more day until you're 40

.......

I am the soap and water and mascara type also, Bridget. My mom gave me a tube of under eye coverage stuff last year which I took as a hint (not right away but after awhile I realized

). It was when I noticed my eyebrows were always looking really raggedy and I thought "Oh....that's what those eyebrow pencils are for!"

I really like the "barely there" idea in a moisturizer. I'll have to check it out. Does anyone use Avon? I have an Avon lady and it seems so easy to just call and have it delivered but I'd like to get a recommendation first.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 10:16am \| IP Logged

I'm barging in here.......

I've never been much of a makeup person either....but I have always worn mascara and lip gloss. I've always enjoyed experimenting, though and learning new tricks.

My pregnancies and age have made my face very red and blotchy...definetely need a coverup / foundation to hide this.

A couple years ago, Sheer Cover came out and it's MAGIC if you ask me! Very light and natural looking but hides everything. Don't let the price scare you off.....My 90-day-supply lasts for 6-9 months, probably longer! And, Guthy-Renker (the marketing company) is great with returning things if you're not happy with them.

For the OTHER make up parts.....go to those silly makeup counters and have those crazy 20-year-olds with no clothes on "do you up". They may be practically naked and have TONS of makeup on themselves, but they DO know what they are doing. Just be sure to tell them you don't want your makeup to be obvious.....that's the key....they understand that. Tell them to SHOW YOU what they are doing. Clinique has good make up artists that are trained well. Also, the MAC people. They totally know what they are doing!

Then, buy ONE or TWO things that you know you like. Many things can be from the drugstore, but the problem is you can't TRY it at the drugstore and you end of spending the same if you were to spend a bit extra at the makeup counter.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 10:28am \| IP Logged

JennGM wrote:

Another option for coverage of blotchiness is powder. There are different types of powder now that provide a little foundational color and smoothness. Clinique also has some various examples of powders.

So for everyday, I *literally* powder my nose, little blush, mascara and lip gloss. I admit I forget to reapply the powder, though, during the day.

I, personally, HATE the heavy feeleing of a liquid foundation. So, I go for the powders too. Sheer Cover is all powder, no liquid "foundation"

Avon people have samples....tell them what you're looking for and they may have envelopes of things you could try.

Yves Rocher has inexpensive products and they have samples of things too.

You could also have a Mary Kay party. It's always felt "heavy" for me, but it's a good way to experiment and get ideas.

I have two crazy "hotty-friends" that I met 9 years ago (you know the type...they actaully DATE professional athletes)....they took pity on me at the gym and told me that I should be highlighting my hair. Ha!!! Anyway, long story short.....they have been indispensible with the hair/makeup knowledge over the past 9 years. Everyone needs to have friends like them. And, they're ruthless....."Suzanne, that lipstick is not good for you." Anyway, all that to say that asking someone you know who wears make up and takes an interst in it....could be helpful, even if you're not crazy about how they do theirs.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 10:35am \| IP Logged

momwise wrote:

It was when I noticed my eyebrows were always looking really raggedy and I thought "Oh....that's what those eyebrow pencils are for!"

Waxing/Plucking your eyebrows can make such a huge differnce in your face! If you have heavy eyebrows there are strips that you can buy to do an at-home-wax-job, if you don't want to spend $10-15 to have it done at a salon. I hardly have any eyebrows, but I do pluck and then apply eyebrow pencil.....it makes a HUGE differnece.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 10:59am \| IP Logged

My only suggestion (I am not a makeup person myself and would rather not have anything on myself, not even moisturizer, though everyone is telling me I should) -- is to check out the list at Skin Deep before purchasing anything -- they have ratings of the least toxic/non-toxic products.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 11:58am \| IP Logged

I am fascinated by this string, because although I do wear a little make-up, I've never known how to do any of the other stuff -- waxing eyebrows, removing other facial hair... So I never have! I'm the hopeless sister of six brothers (no sisters). So, I am hoping to learn from all of you!

I'm pretty intrigued by Sheer Cover, Suzanne! I'd never even heard of it...

I also get dry patches, and I just use one of those loofah scrubby things, and follow that up with some moisturizer. (I just use basic hand lotion.) It works fine.

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This has been so helpful! I'm trying to come up with a doable, affordable routine. Some of those product lines would cost my whole grocery budget!

I think I'll just use Witch Hazel as an astringent.

I found this scrub recipe and it works beautifully.

      Sugar Scrub
      Ingredients
    * 50 percent white cane sugar (note that organic sucanat, while the best choice for food, doesn't work as well for this recipe)
    * 50 percent vegetable glycerin to moisten the sugar (I used avocado oil since I was out of vegetable glycerin --as is my health food store-- and it proved to be a successful substitute)
    * small amounts of aloe vera gel, vitamin C crystals, or anything healing that dissolves in water
    * 1 or two drops of essential oil if desired (Larry recommends combining orange and lavender)
    * enough ground hibiscus powder for pink color (if desired)

Combine the ingredients in a bowl. Scoop some of the scrub onto your hand and massage gently onto your skin for a minute (the scrub will actually tighten onto your skin like a masque). Leave on for 3 to 4 minutes before rinsing.

Then I will go ahead and get one of those loose powder, foundations. Maybe Suzanne's Sheer Cover.

(A tangent about researching this on the internet. There is no such thing as alone time at my house. At least a couple of kids are always with me in the school room where the computers are. Many of the makeup/beauty sites have ads and pictures that should be

! So I kept having to close windows to protect the children. it was making it hard to research. Apparently Madison Avenue thinks that women who are trying to look prettier are going for the sleazy, stripper look.)

So I really appreciate everyone's great advice and knowledge!

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 5:14pm \| IP Logged

Can I jump in here and hijack a little?

How about moisturizers? I have just run out of my standard, Oil of Olay, and I haven't been thrilled with it anyway. So, what do you use? Is there a miracle product out there?

I don't qualify for this forum for a couple more years, but...

I wear no make-up, haven't since my wedding day! My dh definitely prefers that. But I seem to be aging much faster than my mom and grandmom and would like to slow it down at least a little!

Thanks for letting my barge in!

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 5:22pm \| IP Logged

Bridget,
I "wash" my face with sugar scrub and then I use tinted moisturizer with sunscreen and a little lipgloss. My sister has had melanoma for ten years now (she was diagnosed in her twenties), so I'm all about the sunscreen. I'm also really allergic to pretty much everything.

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 6:29pm \| IP Logged

Can I ask how you know which color tinted moisturizer or foundation is right for you? Is it better to err on the side of too dark or too light? How does one figure this out?

Does Sheer Cover have choices as well?

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Elizabeth, I react to almost everything, too. And SPF is so important! Paula's Choice really stresses that aspect in her products, even in winter you need the SPF, minimum 15.

Helen, tinted moisturizers have different colors, so yes you have to choose. I've struggled with the fact that most cosmetic people say to go a little darker, but it never looks right on me. I FINALLY got some cosmetician who agreed that matching my skin tone was better, and to go lighter rather than darker. It helped that my mother was there with opinions, too.

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Sheer Cover has 3 or 4 different "levels"
1. Extra light
2. Light
3. Med
4. Dark

You pick one and they send you two shades. You combine them until you find an exact match for your skin. My combo is about 2/3 Frost, 1/3 Nude. I have very light skin (if you aren't looking at all the red splotches

)

I would prefer to err on the side of too light...otherwise you LOOK LIKE you are wearing makeup, as opposed to hiding blemishes and equalizing skin tone. So, I agree with Jenn.....better to err on the lighter side and adjust. Better to look like a china-doll or Marie-Antoinette than to have a visible tan-line on your chin!

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Posted: March 15 2007 at 8:01pm \| IP Logged

teachingmyown wrote:

How about moisturizers?

Moisturizers don't have to be all that expensive. If your foundation doesn't have spf, you can get a moisturizer that does. Right? I don't think it matters WHERE your spf is, as long as it's there. does anyone know any different? I buy a moisturizer with spf b/c I am not always wearing my makeup, which has spf too.

For dry skin, Usually you'd have a moisturizer for the day, another for the night. Not sure about oily skin. They serve different purposes. Night creams are usually "heavier". You're not concerned about how it looks. Right now I have Pure Calmille that has spf 15 for day. Right now, I use Weleda Night Cream . I paid $10 for this small tube and I've had it since October.

When I lived in the midwest, I even used Bag Balm at night

in the winter when my face would be really dry. It worked wonders....but I was only 25

If you have a "supplement store" near you like this one , it's a good place to shop for high quality products at a lower cost. And, they have testers, so you can smell them/try them.

For those of you who are soap and water people....I don't think there's anything wrong with that! It's all about how your skin FEELS. Most people, if they used soap and water their skin would feel tight, so they have to find an alternative. My mom has NEVER used any sort of facial wash or special moisturizer, and usually not much makeup, and she has beautiful skin at the age of almost 70!

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Posted: March 16 2007 at 7:43am \| IP Logged

Popping in here for the first time...

Thanks to all for the great tips for moisturizers and foundations...

My question: I am starting to get a few "age spots" on my face--they darken when I'm pregnant and then lighten up and almost fade away at about a year postpartum --probably hormonal, I'm sure, but what do you ladies recommend to hide them? I bought an Almay concealer stick at the grocery store and it is useless. I am willing to pay the big bucks as I only have two little spots and whatever I bought would last a long time and I hope that they will fade over time (this happened after my last baby).

Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!

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Posted: March 16 2007 at 7:51am \| IP Logged

Jennifer -

Those brownish areas you are talking about are pregnancy/hormone related. They get much worse with sun exposure, so using a good sunscreen, wearing a hat, trying to keep in the shade are things that help. The only other thing I ever found that helps fade them is a prescription from the dermatologist. I don't remember the name of what he gave me, but it did help.

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Posted: March 17 2007 at 8:08pm \| IP Logged

teachingmyown wrote:

How about moisturizers?

Mary Kay Timewise Age-Fighting Moisturizer
I love it!

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