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Cay Gibson wrote:
I missed this conversation between you two elitist.  Can I throw my gloves off too? I wanna play. 
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OK. No weapons, right? Fair rumble?
I am really hoping, Leonie, that when Trip's class discusses the book, that they focus not just on the message, but on the art of writing.
Cay, I did like parts of the book towards the end very much. I think her writing matured. One funny part of the film, though, that I think was over-the-top Coppola, was after the boys were discussing Gone with the Wind, and they are standing under a red sky in a scene reminiscent of a scene in GWTW. I was laughing so hard I missed the poigniant moment, and had to rewind.
Just for the sake of full disclosure: The genre of "gang" books or films or plays just does not do it for me. I can't bear Romeo and Juliet, nor West Side Story (though I do like the music). So maybe that's just my problem with the book in a nutshell.
Leonie, as an Australian, did you get the impression that the book was a real slice of Americana? Cay, did you relate to the book? (we are going to be redirected off this discussion...let me start a new thread...  ).
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MacBeth wrote:
OK. No weapons, right? Fair rumble?
I am really hoping, Leonie, that when Trip's class discusses the book, that they focus not just on the message, but on the art of writing. |
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 I think what we get from the book depends on the discussion.....not the rumble!
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See, that's how I felt about Lord of the Flies. Ugh. I got the message, but was disgusted by the whole book.
What about Animal Farm instead? (Different theme, I realize, but not so, well, ugly.)
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Ok here are my quick suggestions for the list, keeping in mind my copy of Real Learning is still packed in a box somewhere, so I may be redundant here:
Life of Pi (though this could be read in middle school I think it has more impact in high school)
The Count of Monte Cristo
The Prince and the Pauper (I think this is already on there?)
Some Sherlock Holmes Mysteries
Picture of Dorian Grey
Frankenstein
Scarlet Letter
Hamlet
Iliad/Odyssey or Aeneid
Centennial
I think short stories are very important as a genre in high school as well, and so many to choose from.
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lapazfarm wrote:
I think short stories are very important as a genre in high school as well, and so many to choose from.
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I love short stories. And poetry, too, as I see it is on the SAT Subject test for lit .
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MacBeth wrote:
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I think short stories are very important as a genre in high school as well, and so many to choose from.
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I love short stories. And poetry, too, as I see it is on the SAT Subject test for lit . |
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Oh, that's right! Gotta study up on those literary "elephants" (as my dd calls all those tedious terms)!
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Here's what I read in high school (I'm not saying I recommend them, these are just ideas to stir up your brains): Heart of Darkness (this one, as I recall, was oversaturated with symbols. Blech!), The Sun Also Rises, Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights, ... can't think now and I have to get ready to go to the symphony. Continued later ...
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Elizabeth,
I am looking forward to having a High School book list from you!
We love the elementary!
Could we have some science suggestions from Macbeth? I know she has a website, but I like lists contained in books. It makes it easy to grab on the run!
Are the lists going to be grouped like your present book with history,religion, and science included in each group? I like that too!
Thanks.
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mariB wrote:
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So maybe separate lists by subject? How does that sound, Elizabeth?
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I just finished reading The Politically Incorrect Guide to English and American Literature. It is a "must have" reference book for homeschoolers with high school students. I would not recommend it be handed to all highschool students (though some may be ready), as it is full of references to se*ual matters (nothing graphic) that you might want to avoid, but it is an excellent guide for parents teaching English Lit to high schoolers. The author includes book lists, synopses, and brief biographies of the writers she chooses, organized by time period. She also includes an outstanding plan for self-education in literature. Now, sure, as the title shows, part of the book is a rant against a certain genre of English profs. But I read those more for amusement, and the rest of the book for information. By the end, I had a list of books I had not read, but which I am anxious to explore!
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MacBeth,
I just wanted to give you a great big THANK YOU! I bought this book used after seeing you mention it here. I don't have any high schoolers yet, but the book has been absolutely fascinating to me. Like you, I have a list of books that I now am eager to read.
One interesting thing to note: as I was reading, I got the distinct feeling that the author was addressing many issues from a viewpoint with which I agreed. It turns out, she received her MA in philosophy from Catholic University of America. Perhaps that explains the somewhat Catholic "flavor" of the book. I highly recommend it.
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MacBeth,
I just wanted to give you a great big THANK YOU! I bought this book used after seeing you mention it here. I don't have any high schoolers yet, but the book has been absolutely fascinating to me.
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And I missed this recommendation somehow.  I have high schoolers so this will be great!!!
THANK YOU both. I just went and threw it in my shopping cart. 
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I *thought* that CHC provided this, but instead, they offer these politically incorrect guides. Are they as worthy as the English/Literature one?
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That link didn't work. Hopefully, this will:
Guide to American History
Guide to Science
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I have the science guide, and I like it, for what it is. It's pretty light/quick reading.
I have not seen the history PIG, but I am familiar with the author, and I have read his other book How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, and enjoyed that as much as the literature guide.
Tina, if CHC does not carry the lit guide, it might be because of the se*ual content. It fits in with the context of the book, but it might be something that CHC wants to avoid. Still, the English PIG is worth getting for us adults, both as a guide to what to read, and a guide to the authors' intents as we recommend books to our teens and friends.
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OK, MacBeth, so what *is* it? I'm taking it from what you're saying that this guide is *not* what you would use as a spine for science for a year. Is it useful to a homeschooler? If not, why would CHC recommend it?
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OK, MacBeth, so what *is* it? I'm taking it from what you're saying that this guide is *not* what you would use as a spine for science for a year. Is it useful to a homeschooler? If not, why would CHC recommend it?
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Oh, I think it's worth having, but as a reference, not as a spine. It is not organized in any particular fashion, but topics covered include:
Radiation, Global Warming, Nuclear weapons, Chemistry (including dioxin and DDT), Endangered Species, AIDS, Cloning, Stem Cells, Cancer, Evolution, and Science vs. Religion.
So, what is it? It's a book about the politics of science. Like other PIGs, it has sidebars which include "Books You Are not Supposed to Read" and quotes from such varied sources as the Star Wars trilogy and National Geographic. Useful, yes, but hardly a complete course, or even a spine (unless the course is "The Politics of Science" .
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