Oh, Dearest Mother, Sweetest Virgin of Altagracia, our Patroness. You are our Advocate and to you we recommend our needs. You are our Teacher and like disciples we come to learn from the example of your holy life. You are our Mother, and like children, we come to offer you all of the love of our hearts. Receive, dearest Mother, our offerings and listen attentively to our supplications. Amen.



Active Topics || Favorites || Member List || Search || About Us || Help || Register || Login
Tea and Conversation (Forum Locked Forum Locked)
 4Real Forums : Tea and Conversation
Subject Topic: So now, what do we do? Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
Ruth
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Nov 04 2006
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5007
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 12:40pm | IP Logged Quote Ruth

I’m sorry for the long post, but I wanted to respond to your kind thoughts. Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers. I will print it and read this over and over again for courage.

humanaevitae wrote:
   Kindly suggest if they have concerns, it would be more respectful to discuss it with you? I think I would tend to be direct and need the matter to be discussed in order to move on with those neighbors.


She did talk to me about my girls not playing with her last Summer. Her daughter would come home crying about it, so I had the girls go over and apologize, and things were fine for a while. But the she started acting again, so the girls started to keep their distance.

Lisbet wrote:
It is a very deep and painful violation when someone does this. It terrifies you right to the core.

It might just be my personality, but I have had a very hard time getting over it. It's way less of an issue for me now, but it still really stings when I think about it.



That's exactly how I feel. Thank you for putting it into words for me.

Alice R wrote:
Calling SS is VERY serious. Your children could've been removed or a number of other horrible things.



My kids are still having nightmares about it

Servant2theKing wrote:

It may seem difficult, or nearly impossible, but if you can pray for the family who made that report, you will have greater peace with the situation. Praying for those who persecute us truly brings grace to seemingly impossible situations!


That's exactly what my dh said this morning.

hylabrook1 wrote:
I really think the sense of discomfort you are getting is something that you should obey.



Thank you. This is great.

guitarnan wrote:

Honestly, if the parents would take such drastic action because their child is upset about a cancelled birthday event, they have serious issues and you should be very cautious around them, IMHO.



That's what scares me the most.

MrsKey wrote:
Children often tell their parents things about play dates. And as we all know children are often not very good observers or reporters and often misrepresent things. Even though such a misrepresentation would be completely unintentional ... the risks involved if the parents of this child take it the wrong way are just too severe to be ignored.


Thats' why the comments she made yesterday sounded weird.

Martha wrote:

I also question that they were genuinely concerned about food. If I was that worried about a neighbor, I wouldn't let them go hungry while I called SS to check into it. I'd take them food!



That's what I said!!!!

Jen L. wrote:
This helped me when a similar situation happened to us:
I wrote a letter to the person - free form, no wordsmithing or editing. And then, I DID NOT send it. I ended up (probably a few weeks later) ripping it up.



I'm going to try that with Bernie. We've been joking about what we would do

Anne McD wrote:

I might be tempted to be blunt with the mother of this child if she comes over again. Just say sweetly to her that your children can't play right now, but you'll discuss with her mom when they'll be able to get together again. Then call her mom and tell her that unfortunately, someone in the neighborhood recklessly (sp?) and cowardly called SS on your family without coming to you first. Now, you have been forced into a situation where your trust in your neighbors has been ruined, and you will wait until the warmer weather for your children to play outside together, where everyone can be fully supervised.



This is what we're going to do this weekend

Sarah wrote:
PS I think you would be wise to get legal help ready because if they feel slighted they might get angry. Document everything you've told us thus far!!!!

Be careful. Ask St. Joseph what to do. He had to protect his family and I'm sure the Flight into Egypt was terrifying.



The girls did that yesterday, on their own I didn't tell them to do this, but they're concerned.

I will pray to St. Joseph for guidance. I didn't think about the Flight into Egypt.

humanaevitae wrote:
Are you absolutely sure it was this neighbor? Can you trust that your other neighbors are telling the truth when they say they didn't do it?

I would ask the new neighbors point blank. If they did then kindly explain that obviously they don't consider you a fit parent and someone who is capable of supervising their daughter so no more playdates.


I did ask my neighbors point blank. I know my next door neighbor was very hurt We have no doubt about who it was. I pray we have the courage to talk to them this weekend.

JodieLyn wrote:
Do you even really know the parents? It seems to me all this "communication" is going through the little girl and she's obviously less than truthful (manipulative) even to her own parents. Sometimes people will think to call the "authorities" because they don't know how or can't for some reason approach the person involved.



They have made so many cruel comments to us about the other neighbors, so they've shown their true colors. This is why my dh thought of them first. I went around asking the other ones first, just in case.






__________________
Ruth

mom to 7 miracles

My family blog

Loreto Rosaries
Back to Top View Ruth's Profile Search for other posts by Ruth Visit Ruth's Homepage
 
Lisbet
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Feb 07 2006
Location: Michigan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2706
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 1:00pm | IP Logged Quote Lisbet

Ruth, the SS that came to our door was black, the next day my 3y.o. asked me, "Mommy, if the black lady takes us away, will we turn black too?"

My nine year old daughter asked me "Mom, do children who get taken away get adopted by other parents?"

I was forced to discuss things with my children that they were not ready for. Each night we prayed for Mr. W (neighbor) during our rosary. The kids would say, "for God to soften Mr. W's hard heart so he likes kids."

It ripples through the whole family, it shakes the security that we hold so dear. I was amazed at the re-percussions of that one phone call.

__________________
Lisa, wife to Tony,
Mama to:
Nick, 17
Abby, 15
Gabe, 13
Isaac, 11
Mary, 10
Sam, 9
Henry, 7
Molly, 6
Mark, 5
Greta, 3
Cecilia born 10.29.10
Josephine born 6.11.12
Back to Top View Lisbet's Profile Search for other posts by Lisbet
 
Ruth
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Nov 04 2006
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5007
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 1:12pm | IP Logged Quote Ruth

Lisa, like you said before, "It terrifies you right to the core." My kids just asked me if the neighbor thought about what could happen when they made the call. I. too, am amazed at the re-percussions of that one phone call.
It's all we've thought about this week. We lost a week of school


__________________
Ruth

mom to 7 miracles

My family blog

Loreto Rosaries
Back to Top View Ruth's Profile Search for other posts by Ruth Visit Ruth's Homepage
 
Paula in MN
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Nov 25 2006
Location: Minnesota
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4064
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 4:49pm | IP Logged Quote Paula in MN

Well, now that I have read everyone else's comments, and really understand what happened, can I change my first comment??? NO WAY would I let the kids play together again. Calling SS is serious, and the way you are handling it is COMMENDABLE!!!

__________________
Paula
A Catholic Harvest
Back to Top View Paula in MN's Profile Search for other posts by Paula in MN Visit Paula in MN's Homepage
 
Ruth
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Nov 04 2006
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5007
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 7:16pm | IP Logged Quote Ruth

I just spoke to our priest tonight, and he said for charity's and our family's sake, stay away from them. I told him I feel bad for their little girl, but he said they'll have live with it. He agreed we need to speak with a lawyer. There should be some penalties for false accusations. Thanks, again for your advice. It really has helped us a lot!

God bless you all.



__________________
Ruth

mom to 7 miracles

My family blog

Loreto Rosaries
Back to Top View Ruth's Profile Search for other posts by Ruth Visit Ruth's Homepage
 
Carole N.
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Oct 28 2006
Location: Wales
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4484
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 7:40pm | IP Logged Quote Carole N.

I think that you are making the best possible choice. When this happened to us, I ended a friendship for myself and for my daughter. I was so certain that it was this particular friend (from our church). The DHS investigator knew too many details about our personal life.

Now, almost two years later, my daughter is mending this friendship with the daughter (they are in the handbell group together). Last night, they came to collect money for St. Judes. It was a very stilted conversation at first, but later she told me how sad she was over what had happened. She told me once again that she did not report me. It is so hard to know what to do.

__________________
Carole ... in Wales
Back to Top View Carole N.'s Profile Search for other posts by Carole N.
 
esperanza
Forum All-Star
Forum All-Star
Avatar

Joined: Aug 17 2005
Location: Virginia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 855
Posted: Feb 09 2007 at 10:24pm | IP Logged Quote esperanza


good advice given..hang in there, Ruth.

__________________
In His Peace,

Tammy Gonzalez in VA
dh-Johnny
mom to Tara-'85, Noelle-'88, Jeremy-'91, Elizabeth-'93, Emma-'96, Dominic-'99, Gabriel-'01, Elijah-03
and Jacinta-06
Back to Top View esperanza's Profile Search for other posts by esperanza
 

Sorry, you cannot post a reply to this topic.
This forum has been locked by a forum administrator.

<< Prev Page of 2
  [Add this topic to My Favorites] Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Hosting and Support provided by theNetSmith.com