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Jenn, I'm not sure if this is what's going on with your son, but for mine, potty training wasn't successful until he knew he could go without it hurting. We did many of the things Suzanne talks about in her great poop post  , but nothing worked until he got to a point that he could go without pain. He would wear big boy pants and go pee in the potty, but would go poop in a diaper, or sometimes in his pants. For him, we needed to get him going regularly and without it hurting, so it didn't matter if it was in the potty or not. After he became regular and his results were not quite large and painful, then we moved on to the potty.
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Thank you all for the help, advice, and support. I'm reexamining all fronts, working on the diet and positive reinforcement, talks, etc. I feel much better getting this out in the open. We had to get things moving yesterday, so after the non-successful soak, we gave a liquid suppository to get things "uncorked". I hate doing that, as he gets very upset, but afterwards he is so happy and relieved. He even was up earlier today and more perky, so I know he feels a bit better.
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I can’t believe I just wrote so much about Poop!!!! Here are a couple (or maybe a lot) of thoughts:
Maybe talking about it, educating him about it. Give him verbiage to talk about it, so it’s not so scary. |
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Thanks for all this. I've been trying some of these approaches already, and yours are terrific. He's pretty rational and bright for a young child.
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| My almost 5 year old boy had the same problem when he was 3 also. He would just not go since he was afraid it would hurt and of course the longer he went, the more painful it was when he finally went. We tried everything that has been mentioned with few results. He would sometimes go in the warm tub, but even that wasn't often. He would get very lethargic and grumpy and get circles under his eyes. I would use a suppository at that point and I usually had to do it twice. That was dreadful for both of us. What finally worked for us was to give him a dose of Little Tummies Laxative every night. He didn't like the taste at first, but we called it his "warrior medicine" ( when we tried prune jusice we called it the drink of a warrior - Star Trek Next Generation fans will know why ) After a couple of weeks he was going regularly, but he had to take it every night. I was worried about using a laxative long term, but in doing a bit of research about chronic constipation in children seemed to indicate it would not be harmful. We continued the dose every night for serveral months and he is now able to go without a problem. |
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This was the approach we were taking. I kept thinking that once he was in a routine I could stop the Miralax, but then we'd be back to holding and the downward spiral again.
So I think we'll have to continue this approach...keeping his stools soft so he can't hold it back, so it doesn't hurt, the pain is distant memory and he won't be afraid to go in the toilet. The doctor did explain he could be doing some damage to his intestines. Plus he also suggested putting him on the toilet for 10 minutes after meals to bring back the urge to void. He's turned it off, and this is bad if kept up.
I'm going to push more fruits and veggies and exercise and liquids.
It's a multi-pronged situation. Kym just added this while I'm typing up my response:
KASB wrote:
| Jenn, I'm not sure if this is what's going on with your son, but for mine, potty training wasn't successful until he knew he could go without it hurting. We did many of the things Suzanne talks about in her great poop post , but nothing worked until he got to a point that he could go without pain. He would wear big boy pants and go pee in the potty, but would go poop in a diaper, or sometimes in his pants. For him, we needed to get him going regularly and without it hurting, so it didn't matter if it was in the potty or not. After he became regular and his results were not quite large and painful, then we moved on to the potty. |
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And this sums up perfectly what I perceive as the problem. It's like you know my son, Kym! And I keep telling my dh that he won't be potty trained until we get over this hump.
Sigh...but it gets tiring to constantly think about poop.
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I was at the Health Food Store today. I thought I would add probiotics to his regimen. Someone suggested perhaps adding Vit C in larger doses to keep his stools softer.
What do you think?
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Sorry I don't have any advice...you've gotten plenty of great tips. But I just wanted to let you know I've had 6 of 7 (so far) go almost to 4yrs. old (between 3 1/2 and 3 3/4) before potty training  .
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